Citizen Hearing 2013: Closing Remarks

0:04 this hearing is in order we've got our ready and um and gentlemen if you could stand and repeat after me i do hereby affirm i do hereby affirm that i will tell the truth and nothing but the truth nothing but the truth to this committee today today thank you mr chair and before i move to the next witness if i could just indicate that i'm pleased i don't know if you have a copy of the letter yes you do so if you could hand that to me would you like to read this oh well no i'll dr book when i'd have you read that letter uh there's not just letter that the committee created we also have all six members who've signed because it does not deal with a foreign government it deals with the veterans affairs administration and is also addressed to the president the united states we're all six members of this committee and i won't take the time to read it you're welcome to come up later basically demand that jim pennison

1:07 and airman burrows be granted their medical records from this government just a point of personal privilege if i can just say that beyond the obvious benefits to those two heroic former members of the united states air force this the release of those records the obvious medical benefits are clear and that's alone enough reason for us to sign that but the obvious implications of what's on those records in terms of breaking down the wall or putting another crack in that truth embargo or i think obvious to people in this room for sure let's let's go to um to our esteemed honorable paul hellyer of canada we would give you 20 minutes sir thank you very much mr chair

2:08 and thank you for giving me this opportunity to speak my name as i said was paul hellyer i'm a former minister of national defense for i served in three governments during a of 23 and a half years as a member of although as minister of national defense i had citing reports of ufos i was too busy to be concerned about them at the time because i was trying to unify the army navy and air force into a single canadian defense and that itself was a kind of battle to the finish so this was not high on my but about 10 years ago i started getting uh due to a young man from ottawa sending me material on the subject i told him i was too busy to read it but he had confidence that someday i would he sent me a copy of um colonel corso's book the day after it took me a while to get around to

3:09 reading it but i took it for my summer reading in 2005 and was really impressed with what was contained in it and what i thought to myself is there are huge issues here huge issues and the american people and the people of the world have a right to what's going on because they're part of it's not just an isolated thing and so after confirming the contents of the with a retired united states air force i accept the invitation of victor who's over here somewhere and his cohort mike byrd to speak to a symposium at the of toronto and i said ufos are as real as the airplanes flying overhead

4:10 that gave me the dubious distinction of being the first person of cabinet rank in the g8 group of company countries to say so unequivocally since then i've learned a lot from many sources including a number of the fantastic witnesses that we have heard these last four days they were so outstanding i was just really blown away with them the amount of information that was available and i appreciate every single one of them but because i'm not a ufologist i'm a politician there are only a few things that i want to add in that realm first is that about in the 1960s sometime it was a flotilla of ufos headed south that crossed into nato territory in europe and the commander-in-chief of

5:11 the supreme allied allied headquarters in europe was naturally very shaken fortunately or maybe divine providence the panic button was pushed the flotilla turned around and headed back north obviously they had thought maybe they were russian and they were very concerned about it anyway and uh an investigation was launched into this whole subject and a document was prepared which concluded that at least four species had been visiting earth for thousands of and this is my own view at this stage as so except for that there are just a couple of um things that we've talked about that i'd like to

6:12 refer to and one was that we were referring to them as they until this morning when linda howe i think she was the first one actually named three different species i have brought my uh latest book called light at the end of the tunnel a survival plan for the human species as an aid memoir and i name five different species here i'm aware of more now as a matter of fact i saw a document just a few days ago that mentioned 20 and i thank you mr chairman we're interested in some of the places they might come from and i have in here zetta reticul r e t i c u l i reticuli the pleiades oreon and romita and the altair star i don't think we can any more refer them

7:14 to them as they because they're not an amorphous mass they are different species and consequently may have different agendas i don't think we can say that they all have the same agenda any more than that we could say that the united states of china and russia at the same agenda our real interests may be very but as of now our perceived interests are still quite far apart one more observation before i begin what i want to say and that is that we spent quite a bit of time talking about the 60 seer six-year-old cadavers and i was glad to linda this morning finally say that there are live ets on earth at this present time and at least two of them probably working with the united states government i the seventh the other species that i learned about not too long ago

8:15 was called the tall whites and this is when paula harris broke the story just a few years ago and through her good offices i had the chance to talk for about three hours with former airman charles hall and listen to this absolutely fascinating story of how he was working with first of all he was scared out of his skin but after that when he got to know them how he was working with and finally they became to trust each other and have a good working relationship with the tall whites at the gunnery range at indian springs in nevada and these tall whites were on united states air force property and working in cooperation with the united states air force and sharing technology with him he wrote a book incidentally called millennial hospitality there are four different versions but

9:16 paula says that millennial hospitality number two is the best i think that's the one i read and it's a is a very interesting if you want to sort of get inside the the problem of what it's like to bump into these people floating across the uh the terrain in the in the desert enough on that for now my interest is in full disclosure and uh i just my only caveat is i think probably i would say 95 to 98 full disclosure i know of one or two things that i not sure should be in the public domain at least yet they will be someday i'm sure but not maybe immediately but just as children survive the idea of the tooth fairy and santa claus when they become adult i think that tax paying citizens are quite capable of accepting the new and broader reality

10:17 that we live in a cosmos teeming with of various sorts the fact that some other civilizations are more advanced than we are may be humbling but that could be a necessary step in our survival the world is an unholy mess we have it best until the end of this decade in my book i said we have 10 years to stop global warming if we don't want it to be beyond the point of no return two years has gone past since it was written so i say we have until the end of the decade to arrest global warming yet our leaders don't even talk about it very much except in a superficial way they appear to be more interested in starting worse to control more oil and in effect prolong the gravity of the of course even if they took the problem they wouldn't have the finances to finance the transition from oil to the clean economy clean energy

11:18 because we have an infinitely silly and financial system in the western and the united states congress i regret to say is partly responsible and i'd be glad to elaborate on that later if you're interested and finally they need the technology for clean energy and it exists and it's being kept secret by the same vested interests who control our destiny who are these vested interests and what are they up to well senator you were talking about a military honda in my opinion that is true but i have broadened and deepened the definition to cabal and the cabal comprises members of the

12:19 three sisters the council on foreign relations the and the trilateral commission the international banking cartel the oil cartel members of various intelligence organizations and select members of the military unit who together have become a shadow of not only the united states but of much of the western world the council on foreign relations is the oldest of the three sisters as early as october 1940 years before germany surrendered to the allied armies and to vaporize hitler's vision of the council's economic and financial group drafted a memorandum outlining a comprehensive policy quote

13:20 to set forth the political military territorial and economic requirements of the united states in its political potential leadership of the non-german world including the united kingdom itself as well as the western hemisphere and the far east the council no effort to disguise the fact that the purpose of the grand area and later world hegemony was to support an expanding u.s economy to provide it raw materials and markets for its this was labeled the national interest quote unquote it was equally clear that the national interest was the interest of the ruling whose members comprised the council the real interests of the majority of rank-and-file americans was never a factor in the equat in the so um mr david rockefeller who's a member of

14:22 all three of the sisters is quoted as saying this at a meeting of the bilderbergers in europe we are grateful to the washington post the new york times time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years it would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years but the world is more and prepared to march toward a world the supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto determination practiced in past he of course pretended he didn't say

15:22 that but the witness this is reported by daniel estelan a thoroughly reliable uh reporter who has written the two true story of the bilderberger group and if you want to to really get inside what's been going on there for this long that's a good place to go so anyway you hear what mr rockefeller said and so there you have it the aim of the game is a world government comprising members of the cabal who are elected by no one and accountable to no and according to mr rockefeller the plan is well advanced does this help you to understand why our civil rights are being taken away from i say us because canada too is included in the grand plan

16:24 a giant leap in the wrong direction followed the end of the cold war no one could have been happier than i was when the berlin wall came down on november the 9th 1989. the elation on our side of the curtain was near universal and very significant on the other side as one country after another regained its freedom nearly everyone believed that it was the dawn of a new era of peace and prosperity for people there was much talk of a peace dividend the prospects were dazzling dazzling in their scope and diversity it was a unique and god-given opportunity for a new braver and fairer we blew it we blew the chance of a to do good things a small group of undermined our golden opportunity to pursue peace not war and little did we dream

17:25 that they had a vastly different vision of the new world order their plan which is now commonly known as the project for a new american century included preventive wars and clear violation of international law regime change wherever and whenever the us desires and if they can get away with it without excessive casualties and the establishment of a kind of economic and cultural hegemony with america acting as constabulary quote unquote that was their word globally this was to be accomplished without authority of the united nations and without the restraint of existing international treaties it would involve a military buildup unprecedented in peacetime history and could trigger an arms race which is precisely the opposite of the peace that the world had rightly looked forward to

18:25 the machiavellian scheme involved secret the curtailment of civil liberties and defiance of the us constitution and the moribund economy operating way below its potential exactly those features for which the soviet union was held in contempt the initial draft of the document was so when it was leaked to the new york times that it had to be rewritten but it was not changed very much just the cosmetics enough to make it politically acceptable the document said this may have been easy to persuade president bush to abandon his stated policy of not getting america more deeply involved in international but persuading the american people would be more difficult sophisticated americans would question such a giant sea change in policy the authors of rebuilding america's

19:25 defenses strategy forces and resources for a new century recognized this difficulty from the because their document contained the following sentence further i'm quoting further the process of even if it brings revolutionary changes is likely to be a long one absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event like a new pearl harbor well it wasn't too long before they got their catastrophic and catalyzing event terrorists struck the world trade center in new york and the pentagon in on september the 11th 2011. incidentally they have removed the sentence about pearl harbor in the document that you could now get if you went to the internet to find it almost the whole world mourned canada the overwhelming majority of muslims

20:25 condemned the treacherous attacks my sympathy for the friends and families of the injured and dead was genuine and unwavering to this day my sympathy for the u s government began to grow a bit thin however when i heard president bush cite the reasons for the attack i quote why do they hate us he asked rhetorically in an address to the they hate what they see right here in this chamber democratically elected their leaders are self-appointed they hate our freedoms our freedom of religion our freedom of speech our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other i felt sad when i heard the president's word i assumed that he believed what he was saying but if that were true he was profoundly ignorant of the real thoughts and feelings of people in other parts of the if he wanted to hear the truth he should have listened to osama bin laden was well informed concerning the origins

21:26 of the kind of fanatical hatred of the united states which has led to such treachery this is his version of events every muslim must rise to defend his religion the wind of faith is blowing and the wind of change is blowing to remove evil from the peninsula of muhammad peace be upon him as to america i say to you and its people a few words i swear to god that america will not live in peace before peace reigns in palestine and before all the army of infidels depart the land of muhammad peace be upon him that is clear enough the dislike of america has nothing to do with democracy versus dictatorship or wealth or freedom of religion or freedom of assembly it is directed re directly related to american foot dragging and stick handling a just settlement of the palestinian question mr heller hell yeah i'd uh hate to

22:27 interrupt uh time has expired but i'm very happy if panel has no objection uh to allow another a minute or two to finish your statement how much time do you think you need i finish it i think probably somewhere between one and five minutes most i think we'll give you two minutes to finish your as much as i'd like to grant more thank okay in short american false foreign policy was the root of the so here we are more than a decade later fighting another war that can't be won there is no country on earth powerful enough to protect its citizens against fanatical hate as we learn from the boston marathon and the mere attempt to pursue the pits neighbor against neighbor and the state power structure against everyone all of the freedoms won by the millions of men and women who fought and died in

23:28 world war ii are being flushed in unceremoniously down the drain the only hope of peace is a negotiated this will require a paradigm shift in american attitudes it involves a de facto renunciation of the plan for a new american energy and the adoption of a pledge of cooperation with all humankind to build the kind of world which we are collectively capable of young people everywhere need to be challenged by a noble cause they need to be involved in arresting global warming creating a banking system that is just and sustainable and lead the way in the transformation to the new reality that we have to live in harmony with our celestial neighbors as well as seeking peace on earth in a word in a word we have to become spiritual beings and practice the one tenet that the world's major religions

24:29 have in common that is the golden rule and this field too and i just want to read one paragraph in this at this time if you'll allow me mr chair this is from the late dr john mack an american secular jewish psychiatrist who became a world leader in interviewing abductees or experiencers as he called them came to this conclusion in a startling book passport to the cosmos quote although the aliens are not gods their behavior is sometimes anything but god-like abductees consistently report that the beings seem closer to the godhead than we are acting as messengers guardian spirits or angels intermediaries between us and the divine source thank you thank you very much

25:30 we'll uh now hear from richard dawn for 10 minutes thank you uh distinguished members of the committee and let me just say it's been an honor for me personally to be here with you all week uh to be able to to give statements to you and chat with some of you privately as well regarding disclosure i i have often felt that disclosure on the matter of ufos and et's possible is a paradox it's impossible but it is it's impossible because there is no political motivation for it it's inevitable however because our leaders are not the only factor in this equation there are other beings after but mainly i would say there's us the people who are going through this social cultural and especially transformation in the history of humanity in fact i would say that we are the game changers someday and it won't be too long in the something is going to force someone's

26:32 it could be a major sighting it could be a major leak something something that can no longer be denied after all we are fast approaching what experts in artificial intelligence call the singularity when computing intelligence exceeds our in such a future i ask you can we really think we will still be stuck in neutral on this issue something will force the president's hand he or she will finally hold that long-awaited press and make that bombshell statement it might go something like this i have been advised by the national security council and heads of our intelligence community that there is a reality to some of the ufo phenomenon in that some ufos are real physical craft not manufactured by any known civilization on earth or words to that effect it's the kind of statement that many proponents of ufo disclosure would like to hear but the real question is what next

27:34 because there would be quite a few follow-up questions at the top of the list will be questions about who these other beings are and what their agenda or agendas might this will be a very difficult question for any president to answer in the first place there is a likelihood that even the leaders of the black or breakaway society that have been on top of this for years they may not even know or at least not and what if they do know and moreover what if at least some of that answer includes information that might be upsetting divining the intentions of non-human visitors or permanent residents whatever they may be might not be the easiest thing to do but it's entirely possible judging from the data we do have that some of them may not care very much about humanity some may some may not what if an agenda has been determined within the intelligence community and this agenda includes something to do

28:35 with alleged abduction phenomenon and even if that isn't true does any president honestly believe he or she can rampant speculation along these lines and even if the intentions of these other beings are said to be neutral or there will clearly be tremendous suspicion by large swathes of humanity this will not be an easy cell there will already be a sizable number of people predisposed to interpreting these other beings as nothing less than demonic short of bringing one of these entities to a podium and subjecting it to hours and days and weeks of questions by an insatiable public it's very likely that any moment of disclosure will not satisfy the public the way it would like to be regarding alien motivations that's only the beginning of the problems one early and obvious question that will arise one which will have deep profound political implications will be very simple

29:36 how long have you managed to keep this secret all these years consider that our entire society has been told that ufos do not represent anything truly anomalous that ets or aliens are definitely not here on earth interacting with us that ufo believers may be well-meaning but had been mistaken about all of that this has been a mindset embedded within all of our major our educational institutions from primary school through universities and postdoctoral levels throughout our major news organizations in which an open belief in ufos is a third rail for one's career throughout our scientific establishment for sure and also throughout our political political careers have been destroyed or at least severely undermined by the ufo remember what happened to dennis kucinich in 2008 after it became known that many years before he had seen a ufo never mind the fact that the two witnesses he had been with came out and corroborated the sighting

30:37 they saw the same thing all of these institutions and others have treated the ufo topic as nothing more than a joke something suitable for immature minds can it really be that the professors throughout the united states uniformly have dismissed this phenomenon without any cooperation from the intelligence community ditto the world of science politics and media well no not when the most modest amount of research shows strong intelligence community influence over all of these institutions in other words people will see very clearly that the national security apparatus has created a global culture that has suffocated the truth researchers will begin to investigate in a serious way just how these relationships have undermined the credibility of all those institutions and undermined our apprehension of truth the result will be a major cultural and institutional house cleaning but it won't stop there citizens will

31:38 naturally want to know specifics about the structure of secrecy itself that is they will want to know if the u.s president has been out of the loop all these years as it seems then who exactly has been in the loop who has been running the ufo cover-up if the answer is anything along the lines of my own research so far it will show that the cover-up has long ago gravitated away from formal presidential authority into international and private hands it's not that the u.s president is a non-player in all of this but rather is more like the public face of the true power elite that stands behind we all i think have come to understand this when it comes to power in general and this will likely be the case when we begin a sophisticated analysis of ufo in other words the moment of disclosure will trigger an intellectual revolution worldwide relating to the true structure of power

32:39 on planet earth it will be a moment in which the world sees and acknowledges that the emperor has been wearing nothing at all the political fallout will be tremendous and a great battle will develop within the first year of disclosure think of it this way just because the president has been forced into making an doesn't mean that the cia and all the other intelligence groups that have been managing this will simply walk away there has been a concerted effort spanning an entire human lifetime to control this topic a great deal has been invested and mere disclosure is not going to change that the real issue in the immediate post-disclosure world will be who controls the spin on the story because right away there will be a great divide a chasm once this topic is available for open discussion you can be sure that people around the world will be demanding answers you can be just as sure that on the other side of the fence information will be handed out as

33:39 sparingly as possible government spin doctors will be out in great numbers trying to control the situation according to national security policy although this time independent ufo searchers may get a public hearing that they hadn't gotten before if the official spokespersons are making misleading or false statements it's going to be a bit easier for independent researchers to point this out because this time the world will be much more likely to listen and there will be many many more investigators into this topic after disclosure than there are today how all that will turn out only time will tell there are so many messy issues relating to global finance energy truth commissions lawsuits cultural transformations cultural wars and spiritual changes scientific shifts and ultimately geopolitical

34:42 that will allow us to meet the challenge of shall we call them others here on planet earth in some sort of coordinated hopefully logical manner and even more hopefully in some way that answers to the people rather than a handful of elite human players and for that we will need a groundswell of public pressure from below and tremendous political energy ethics and courage to take on the black budget that has dominated this subject for so and to begin a long hard fight to reclaim some measure of freedom and dignity for humanity while we begin a new better and more mature phase of our thank you thank you mr golan now we'll and now we'll go to our next witness daniel sheehan for 10 minutes good afternoon uh again i i

35:45 i point out that uh i'm i'm speaking in this context as our our general counsel here for this uh this gathering in our our meeting uh and i i do this in the context of served as an attorney as i pointed out in my my initial comments and the first day we gathered i have for various reasons ended up at being the attorney for a number of different issues having to do with attempting to uncover ongoing cover-ups from the time that i served as one of the attorneys for the new york times in the pentagon papers having seen the 47 volumes of of the concealment of a policy that was completely contrary to what was being publicly professed and told to the congress in fact and then i ended up being counsel in the karen silkwood case uncovering the fact that uh that our central intelligence agency was

36:46 smuggling uh 98 pure bomb grade plutonium to israel etc i pointed out at the beginning of this this week and i pointed out that i ended up at the in the iran contra case as being the ones who uh one of the ones that brought the information attempted to bring it to and i i want to point out here just at the very top of my conversation to the reaction on the part of peter rodino who was the chairman of the house judiciary committee at the time when the information concerning the self-financing covert operations that had been set up by the chief of covert operations for the central intelligence agency theodore shackley under george h.w bush that when he was told this by scott armstrong one of his trusted confidants that peter rodino's response was my god my god scott

37:46 i've been telling people for years if they didn't like the way that our american policy was going that they should write a letter to their but if their congress person did not respond they should vote for someone to be their congress person but if what you're telling me here is true why then we haven't even been in charge i'm not going to allow the united states congress to investigate anything like now that's that's a an absolute quote from peter rodino as the chairman of the judiciary committee and this had only to do with the fact that there was a covert operation going attempting to supply military equipment to the contras now what we're dealing with here is we've we've come full circle during the course of this week we've discovered that uh the three the three major questions that have been in front of us that being that what in the world is going on here with this phenomenon of so-called unidentified flying objects or

38:48 flying saucers themselves when we move beyond the unidentified nature of them and these beings that seem to be associated with these vehicles that have been seen on a number of occasions that's one of the big major questions and the second major question is well who in the world is it that knows what the answer to this question is since so many of the government officials don't seem to know yourselves included one of the one of the extraordinary uh events of the week has been watching the the transition take place from six of our our trusted and long-time actually coming to discover that the information that actually exists about is extraordinary and very detailed it addresses the issue of the radar sightings it addresses the issues of all the questions that have been asked and and it comes to an observation that that not only does the congress not know about this but many people throughout

39:50 the executive branch don't know about and so that it this question of who is it that does know about this uh or are there is there anybody that knows about this and what we have heard over and over again in the testimony is that there are many pieces of evidence that indicate that this is known about that there was an agency set up by president truman shortly after the discovery of the crash site at roswell in 1947 at the majestic 12 group and there's been clear testimony that i believe is credible would be credible in a court of law that this organization has for various reasons taken this issue out from under the oversight of our congress out from under the control of our executive branch and has taken this into a realm of semi-private control and what you'll notice is as we come to the last panel of our our week together here the issue tends to turn more and more to that what what has happened what has happened

40:50 to our country when a national security state seems to have arisen to conceal certain types of information from our people from our congressional even from some of our presidents and so that the that that question seems to be in front of us right now attempting to understand the nature of this this elite group uh and so what we want to do also is face the third question is that when you when you get past these procedural questions to the ultimate question of who are these beings what are the implications for our human if we are in fact at a point of some rather dramatic transition and i believe i believe that what we're going to be experiencing in the very near future uh has been foreshadowed as i mentioned earlier by the position that's being taken by the by the catholic church in the vatican that they are very clearly attempting to move into a position of utilizing the increasing discovery of more and more

41:53 on which they are more and more confident that life is going to be and that they're going to eventually not recognize that at least microscopic life has been discovered but that a civilization has been discovered and they're going to begin by pointing out that it's okay because they're very far away we've discovered them we've found the information but they're very far away and they're going to engage in a process of feathering this consciousness into our people and that they're only then going to point out that this civilization seems to be a highly developed technological civilization and we will then reveal the existence of communication mechanisms that we have developed whereby we can have a longer diplomatic type of negotiation with this and they're going to say let's not turn to the past let's not reflect upon all this information and evidence that's been around for a long time that they seem to

42:54 be here we've known about it there's been concealment about this there may be concealment of certain technology that they've made we had available to us just as just as was said by the obama administration let's not look back at george w bush's let's not review the question of the torture in the lying to the to the congress of the united states to get us involved in this let's not do that let's look forward and be constructive that's how we're all and what i'm saying is that i think we've come to try to share some of that consciousness here this week what can we do to look forward to this and that's why the resolution that's been put forth here to try to reach out and have a set of conferences as sponsored by the united nations general assembly start to reveal this information so we can participate in this to avoid a dialectical confrontation between the people of our country and this national security state apparatus

43:54 some of the details of which have been pointed out here in our final panel and i i share in that wish to have this done constructively and peacefully and i believe that we can do that and i believe that you as members of former members of congress recently retired the reality is that if the if the six of go and sit down with various people in not to expect that they're going to change overnight and say oh look at let's have a hearing on this and expose it to our people but the fact that you have come to discover just this week so much more than you ever knew was going on that you are experts at trying to share this information with people in your regions of the country and we have from all different parts of the country from alaska to california to other states of our country right in the south of our country in the midwest of our country we can if you will reach out and try to talk with your people in your own districts about this issue

44:55 to take upon yourself that risk of the of the potential ridicule the potential the question you've been asking yourself all of you what am i going to do now what am i going to do now that i have left the am i going to continue to represent the people in my district am i going to attempt to educate them because if you have come to the same conclusion that i came to when i was given the privilege of representing dr john mack if you've come to the same conclusion that i have this is one of the most important issues that you've ever encountered in your life and you are the most skilled people to go and share this with your own constituency and reach out and help us that's what we're asking for you to do thank you for your statement mr well now we'll now begin the questioning of our witnesses and we're going to change the order we're going to start with dr bookman

45:56 we're just going to work our way down this way just so you know uh mr dolan we've had this conversation before and i think it might be helpful to the committee too how many crashes do you find credible i've never bothered to tally them up there are a couple of very good books studies that have been done one by a gentleman who's here dr kevin randle uh another by ryan wood how many do your colleagues generally as you look at their materials have you concluded i don't think 10 would be outrageous okay so maybe 10 craft have been recovered 10 let's talk about those 10. um we assume that we're not the most enlightened caring loving folk in the galaxy i gather um is there any evidence that the colleagues of these crashed extraterrestrials have come looking for them or attempted to recover their crash technology or their brothers and sisters who might have been held in captivity no matter how comfortable here

46:57 all we're dealing with are leaks and more leaks and stories and claims it would be it would not be illogical there have been claims that have been uh proving these getting corroboration is another story thank you yes representative thank you uh i i think we should shorten this as best we can except for uh the honorable paul heller what one thing i'd like to say to uh paul heller is i think we know the answer about uh who knows about this uh someone when the youtube guys brought it up and i think uh mr heller answered it for us it's the three sisters i mean they know of the the those the industrial the uh oil cabal the the banking cabal the uh it's in uh they know

47:59 they've been controlling this for a long so uh we know they know and we know they've been controlling it so our question is now what do we do about it uh i don't think it does a lot of good to go out and insult the people that are gonna have to do something about it but we can do um we can do more than we're doing and we have to get money out of politics one we have to control the pres i don't mean control the press what they can see we have to expand the press so that three or five corporations don't own the communications in our country uh and uh we have to do something about our education system so that our students graduate knowing how to question staying in school in the first place but uh they have to learn how to question they have to learn how to analyze

49:02 they have to make decisions that are in their own best interests not in the best interests of the top 1 of the wealthiest people in this country and we have to have economic justice i mean there's so much that we have to do in this country and all if we had a country that was not based money and and had a press that would truth to power and an educated public we'd be demanding and wanting to hear everything that i heard this week from all of you it isn't there it isn't happening we we just do i mean we have so much work to do i mean and then the question of what well my question is what would it looked like uh why would it be upsetting to get this information out what does upsetting

50:05 look like well ms woolsey if i uh i might have something to uh say on that i had a conversation with a gentleman i will just say is of absolutely impeccable um uh credentials who told me of his uh personal knowledge of a briefing that was uh given to president jimmy carter back in june of 1977 on exactly this matter now he doesn't know the details of what was said but he does that it was a briefing about the extraterrestrial presence this was in of 1977 since beginning of his first um first year and uh at the end of that meeting that the president was seen with his uh head in his hands elbows on the desk and weeping or deeply upset something was told to him that was was very upsetting i asked this individual if he had any idea what it was he did not bother to speculate but um i

51:08 will say that i have another another gentleman who was a senior cabinet member in the first reagan administration who um similarly told of being taken for several weeks after he got his job to an underground facility to receive a briefing and was deeply upset be because as he said to a trusted family member i have i have a daughter and i am uh for her so there's something going on uh in which this phenomenon is either threatening or we might speculate beyond the control of the political powers that are officially supposed to be representing us that's suspicious it is beyond control it's the three sisters that are running it so thank you thank you and uh let's go to uh representative

52:08 from maryland thank you very much i want to for a few moments so dwell a bit on a problem that was mentioned by both mr hillier and dr bookman that is a constitutional issue here for the moment we are the undisputed economic and military superpower in the we are a bit less than five percent of the world's population we're about one person out of 22 in the world and we have just about we represent about a fourth the world's economy which means we have about a of all the good things in the world how come how come we know uh longer have the best work ethic in the world all you have to do is drive around and watch for people bending their back and sweating and working you won't see very many white faces and you don't see very

53:08 many black faces you see hispanic faces we no longer have the respect for the nuclear family this year almost half our babies will be born out of wedlock we no longer have the most respect for technical education this year the chinese will graduate seven times as many engineering students as we how is it then that we are so darn that we're the undisputed economic and military superpower in the world i think it's because of our enormous respect and we have a fourth of all the good things in the world i think it's our enormous respect for civil liberties there's no other constitution there's no other bill of rights to protect civil liberties like ours and i think by the way we you've mentioned it gentlemen we are not a democracy we have democrat democratic process but we are republic benjamin franklin asked there's a

54:10 fundamental difference there there's a fundamental difference there i'm very concerned that because our government today so easily ignores the constitution to do what they think are good things the tomorrow like some of the functions of our government that i think are extra constitutional if not unconstitutional like ignoring the sec the first amendment requirement that citizens have a right to petition the government for a redress of grievances there's a grievance that there's not been a hearing on this for a very long time if the government can ignore the constitution to be good things today tomorrow they can ignore the constitution to do bad things other countries have done it when my ex chief of staff who is now my called me and asked me if i was interested to do this and warned me that

55:10 there was a big probability that a lot of people would relegate me to the lunatic fringe for for coming here i told her that the primary reason that i would come was that there's a serious constitutional issue here the citizens have a right for their government to tell them what's going on here and i want to thank both of you for bringing up this constitutional issue because i think it is a very serious one a government which ignores the constitution to do good things today what they think are good things today can ignore the constitution to do bad things tomorrow because they will rationalize that they are good things so thank you very much for your shared concern of this issue now your best friend senator corbin's got five minutes for a question how much time do i have you'll have five minutes for questions and then whatever time afterwards we'll start with you on closing stuff okay good very good uh what i'd like to do is

56:12 ask uh minister heather you know we all talk about the problem in fact that's all i hear is defining the problem we've got to think in terms of solutions what's your solution to the problem you have got problems wall street runs your economy and the military if you elect a president who is presumably commander-in-chief of the armed forces but he's not cleared to know what the troops and his commander are actually doing so i think you know there are some big problems but i think congress ultimately has the key to both the future of the united states and of the world and this is what bothers me because they're not exercising their power to change the things that have to be changed but if you'll indulge me i'd like to read two pages from advice from the extraterrestrials and i think they've got a lot of good

57:15 advice because they know what's going on more than we do sometimes this is a quote from jim sparks who is probably the most abducted of all the people who have been and he was taken away one night late on he'd been inducted abducted dozens of times before that and they he said i found myself standing in that abandoned carnival park clear-headed and fully conscious there were those creatures again and i could see that their holograms of human faces were cast over their faces to disguise their true appearance and make me feel less apprehensive i noticed that each alien seemed to be concentrating on communicating or transmitting its thoughts to the creature to my left they seem to be of like mind as though combining their consciousness into one telepath telepathic voice they continued and now this is the et's there are some things you need to understand

58:16 yes it's true that we have been in contact with your government and heads of power it is also true that we have been in con it is also true that agreements have been made and kept secret from your it is also true that in the past some of your people have lost their lives or have been badly hurt to protect the secret our hands had no part in this we contacted your leaders because your planet is in grave trouble your leaders said the vast majority of your population wasn't ready for anything like us yet so we made time agreements with your leaders as to when your people would be made aware of our presence that part of the agreement has not at all been kept it was also agreed that in the meantime steps would be taken to correct the environmental conditions of your planet with our advice and technology we say advice quote on quote because we

59:17 respect the fact that this is your not ours they also broke that agreement i feel i felt this is jim now i felt an awful wave of emotion from them the feeling of abandonment to feel any emotion from them at all was amazing but this was quite overwhelming you aren't giving up on us are you i asked there was a long silent pause and i received the transmitted feeling of tremendous loss well are you i asked no i felt an immediate sense of relief straight from my own emotions but then the extraterrestrials again your air your water are contaminated your forests jungles trees and plant life are dying there are several breaks in your food you have an overwhelming amount of nuclear and biological weapons which include nuclear and biological

1:00:21 your planet is overpopulated warning it is almost to the point of being too late unless your people act there are better ways of deriving energy and food needs without causing your planet any damage those in power are aware of this and have the capability of putting these into worldwide use i let this digest for a moment i definitely had the feeling that these creatures are speaking as one then i asked why aren't we doing that silence i was willing to wait i'd come a long way to be treated like this by them to have this kind of meeting apparently i had earned their respect and trust the best part was that i was getting direct truthful answers to my questions i decided that i would milk this rare situation to its fullest asking as many questions as i could get away with even personal ones i repeated my question in the answer

1:01:22 those in power view it as a military and security threat that upset me you mean to tell me that the people in power have the ability to and better the planet and they aren't doing it amnesty what you mean complete amnesty to those in power governments and leaders who have been suppressing the truth that they can't be held liable for any past wrong deeds it is the only way these leaders can come forward with the truth it is necessary that you do this in order to work together and survive and the seventh i think congress should exercise his and i i know that they get some job owning but they have the ultimate power they could

1:02:23 say to the hinda we want you to do this we'll give amnesty protection we want you to do and you're going to do it and if you we'll cut your funding off except for salaries and wages until you do do it because it's in the national interest and it's in the world interest and we want to know what's going on and we want the energy sources to put into effect to save the world before it's too darn late thank you very much and we'll start to start the uh closing statements by uh senator gravel well i is there as much as you want yeah you get your closing statement don't ever say that to me i was i i should have warned dr buckman about that but anyway i'll be reasonable let's put it that way

1:03:26 first off uh if i've sounded angry i apologize for that but there's a reason i am angry very angry and uh and but i really want to point out that i love my country i'm very critical of it because it needs to be criticized i consider myself a patriot but but i don't buy into but first and and i used to end a lot of my speeches now lasted for 12 years i am a citizen of the planet first and american second and my priorities are on that way okay make no mistake about that now when we analyzing the problem it's the extraterrestrial situation issue or the 9 11 issue which of course ginned up the ability of the crazies to really go after the we have to start and be a little humble

1:04:28 and say hey those of us that have held office for a period of time you know it's during that period of time that things have gone to hell and when people say well you know we ought to take back our country we never had our country if you realize if you read the constitution it was passed in 87 uh in in 89 the first minute you know we were we were putting in slavery for for infinity and uh and if you look at in the field those of you that have this brochure you look at all of their that said the people should have the right the right to change their government that and based upon the declaration of independence where all human beings are created equal well 12 years later they're in and they're not creating all human beings equal what they're doing is they're making a distinction that white males are the only equal ones and if you have enough property the rest and so those who get married to

1:05:28 the constitution they like to rip the constitution apart and then when you say about you know obeying the constitution after the civil war amendments which really fundamentally is the only improvement made in the constitution of size because it expanded the franchise and if you look at the amendments the rest of it are just housekeeping and so from the civil war on we had 90 years where what 12 13 states were in total violation of the constitution of the united states and nobody gave a darn about it and the political parties were all part of the conspiracy so when you from there to here and look around and how our scientific advancement has been explosive and we are stuck in in a system a structure of governance that's 250 years old that is totally irrelevant to dealing with our problems that we face today and then so we look at say oh we're going to go to the congress

1:06:29 i got to tell you i've said that earlier in the week it's a dead letter and you hold your breath it's never going to happen and it's not that i'm demeaning the congress i've been there and i'll tell you that that they they don't have the power that you think they it was always that but no i i don't want to engage in anything i respect your views but i just want to tell you that the problem you have to come to some kind of a search internally with some humility and say maybe just maybe our structure of governance is deficient is deficient we came we we we don't have a democracy never had it what we have is representative government that's what came out of the of enlightenment it was representative government where a the majority of the people give their power away to a small minority and that small minority and you want to know what happened 4 billion dollars was spent in the last and in our government the congress the

1:07:32 the bureaucracy the judiciary they are locked stock and barrel by the by the wall street the military complex and all the special interests that we find abroad and then when you see what's going on with nato is nothing but the militarization the globalization of the military-industrial that's what's going on and i referred to a study where it showed that 1300 corporations with interlocking directorates and family ties own 60 of the wealth of the world and then you've gone through the litany of the bilderberg group and all of that group sure they they they do what's natural to them they've got power and they're clever enough to to to keep it and work for it our task is to look at the structure of why we're failing as human beings and i say all of us because we've had testimony replete of people in the military who are supposed to be courageous and prepared to charge up the hill

1:08:32 that they defer to authority that silences them and if and if you reason it out it doesn't make any sense that they have to keep secrets like that i had to make that decision in the senate and put myself at risk when releasing the pentagon papers those were top secret documents and the rest of the congress was was like little kids in school that you could go read it but you couldn't take any notes they tried to impeach me and i was saved by one person mike mansfield he stepped he had such power in the senate he stepped before a delegation led by gerald ford brought it with hugh scott went to visit him and said well we've got to deal with this gravel for what he's done and mansfield turns him sucking on his baby says he's done nothing that i know of and they walked all right right out that was the end of the story that saved my career and when i went to see mansfield and i get emotional about it because what he turned to me says mike if i'd had your courage i'd have done the same but stop and think what i did the whole

1:09:33 congress had bought into the secrecy of these documents and i'd spilled turned it all over and made the supreme court moot and put to shame the newspapers that that were now afraid to to to do the end of issue with the supreme court our government is is representative of is designed is designed to keep the in civic adolescence that's what is the what is adolescence oh i want that but i don't want to pay any taxes i want that but i don't want to pay any taxes that's adolescent behavior now how do we bring the people to adulthood civic adulthood how do we do it the way we bring our children up we give our children responsibility as they age and then they come to adulthood so it's taking responsibility but when you have a structure of government that doesn't permit the people to take you guarantee the continuation of civic

1:10:35 and so what i've tried to do with this work and this represents the last 25 years of my public life and it will continue until the day i die and that is that the answer is the people it's not your leaders don't trust your leaders it's the people there's only two venues for change one is the government wherein structurally the problem exists and the other is the people the government won't but the people can't because they give their power away i'll close on one quote which says it all and that is very simple it's a quote two thousand years ago marcus cicero defined defined freedom as participation in power you will never never see fundamental in our society or global society until the power can be relegated to the people

1:11:40 it's just that simple i i make that as a prediction i've resigned myself that i'll keep working but i won't see this in my lifetime won't see it in my lifetime but someday people are going to wake up and say hey you know what what's so what's so worrisome about empowering the people to be able to do what when cicero says freedom is power is participation power what is the central power of all whether tyrannies or democracy one it's the ability to make laws that stand outside of ourselves and we're supposed to obey them at this point in time only make laws and these representatives de facto are controlled by these forces beyond our control because they control society so the answer is to find a way to people to be able to make laws

1:12:40 therefore they will have the power to one to do away with the secrecy in does it surprise you that 50 of the people don't even care about government and and this is not einstein it's theory well it is einstein's theory and that was he said that to repeat over and over again something that doesn't work is the definition of insanity that's a great theory so we vote for democrats nothing really happens we vote for republicans nothing really happens we go to britain we see one government that government nothing really happens to advance the needs of the human race and so you can only come to one conclusion that it the answer is not with the elites because they're gonna and they manipulate our elections mind you uh i raise money from special sources to run for office and i manipulate my constituency i do and i'm sure any successful politician has done that is a manipulated

1:13:40 for your thinking and to think that we in elective office want a turnout of hell no we want to turn out of our not the general voters so the whole structure of representative government is very deficient so let me let me lead with this that i have personally unreserved faith in the people and if you don't have faith in the people what do you have faith in the leaders and that's exactly where we're at today and so if you want to see this issue of being able to maturely and i don't think we're have close to the maturity to deal with the extraterrestrials and we don't have the no we're told and i'll accept that that we have the scientific ability to send e.t home well it's being it's being sequestered away from the people and that's the tragedy because there's a lot more out there that could benefit

1:14:40 the human race but we can't get our hands on it because we don't have this we don't have the structure of governance to be able to go at it and so let me close on the if those of you that don't have this you can go to our website national citizens initiative for and that's hopefully it won't succeed in my lifetime but it is my contribution and a legacy forget the pentagon papers forget the nuclear critique forget the end of the this is the contribution that i think is worthwhile and i won't live to see it thank you very much if uh you will get in your car and

1:15:42 it'll be a little more spectacular in the wintertime because the air is thinner and it holds less moisture and if you will uh drive out of the city away from the lights and away from the uh air pollution and drive up a mountain several thousand feet you don't go very far to do that 100 miles in west virginia will do it and on a cloudless winter night you look up into the sky you will just be astounded at the milky wow it looks like they took a whitewash across the sky there are so darn many stars there more than a billion and then when you recognize that our star is a pretty mediocre star in this galaxy of the milky way and then when you know that there are probably a billion other galaxies this size

1:16:42 you know as a scientist there just has to be another sun out there another star and another planet that has characteristics appropriate for the development of life and i think you have to be very arrogant and very presumptive to believe that that we're the only civilization in the universe and the most advanced civilization wow we're still killing each other in stupid wars and not all that long ago i'm anglo-saxon german descent my four bears were wearing skins in a stone age running around europe as i mentioned earlier when my chief of staff with whom i now work said that i was invited to come here and warn me that you might be ridiculed for it i told her that i was going to come because of the constitutional issue for no other which i mentioned because

1:17:44 your government can rationalize that it's okay to deny you this hearing for your good tomorrow they can be doing a lot of things that are very hurtful to you because in the grand scheme of things they will rationalize that it's for your good thank you very much those of you who organized this you've i've really been privileged to be here i'm honored that you invited me to to come and thank you to the witnesses and i think back to these five days and the witnesses to come some of them at considerable personal price and a special thanks to those who have borne the secret for 40-50 years and now near their deathbed come forward so that so that we can can know i ask myself why this cloak of secrecy clearly there's a cloak of secrecy and i ask myself why my wife says that i'm the optimist and i'd like to think the best

1:18:46 everybody until proven different and so i want to believe that those who made decisions patriotic americans believing that at the time they made the decision which was in the best interest of their of their country this was just a few years after the war of the worlds thing where uh the east coast was panicked when they thought we were being invaded by uh extraterrestrials and that was one concern that i think they must have had that was fairly recent in their memory another concern with vg there really is some advanced technology here isn't and wouldn't it be tragic if the soviets had that rather than us or shared it with us and so i think for these two reasons they could very well have rationalized it and that decision was made very early apparently it may have gone clear to the office of the

1:19:47 president because within a few hours after they issued that press release that said that a flying saucer had they came with this ridiculous press release saying gee it was just a balloon we goofed but they did send what they found to right field and they did send a number of people out to vacuum the area for several days these three things alone tell me that air force knows that they're not telling us the uh the truth i hope that that after 60 odd years of known incidents after the soviet union has gone that these two justifications they recognize are no longer valid and that they might come and tell the american people there is something out there that we can't explain and uh

1:20:49 we're sorry that uh for all these years that uh we rationalized that uh it was a national interest of our country to keep from you i may be the eternal optimist but i'd like to thank the best of people again thank you so very much for putting this on thank you for honoring me to be a part of it thank you yes i certainly want to thank everybody that's been involved in this this whole operation this week and i just want to say how grateful i am for being contacted and asked to and how glad i am that i accepted this opportunity to be on this panel but i want to focus my closing statement and keep it very short on the witnesses

1:21:50 i still can't believe the quality of the witnesses that we've seen this week has been about 40 about 40. this is meant as a total compliment i when i contemplated coming here to washington for this i certainly couldn't imagine that you could assemble in one conference that number of people with that level of capability competence commitment and uh the witnesses are far better than i think any one of us had a right to expect when we accepted this and maybe it's because i don't know enough about ufology but and congressman there there is five more behind every one of those forty they can come forward just as strong

1:22:51 i'm i'm starting to have no doubt about that at all after hearing what just some just just a sampling of pilots and controllers and and people on the ground that have seen things and witnessed things and the integrity and believability honesty and clear thought of each of these testimonies is was something to behold i have to say just i'm just very impressed on that and i'm going to conclude the remarks by saying to all of the witnesses and each and every one witness if you're a researcher you keep on researching and re-double those research if you're someone in the media that's trying to understand this and help promote it work harder at it and if i mean you're doing a good job don't get me wrong but i just want you to redouble this because

1:23:52 because you know if it's true and i i i i've announced before i even came here that i believe in extraterrestrial life and that was from a religious so i've been focusing on scientific evidence of it and let me just say this i'm like miss sorry the names listen to me but person that used to be the minister of or in the ministry of uh defense nick pope i'm like dick pope i haven't come to a definite scientific conclusion on that question but i hope in this short lifetime i have i can based on science and if you researchers will redouble the efforts and if anybody that can help fund and resource this kind of effort can can get

1:24:54 committed and get going because hey i can tell you this must have cost some real money what you've done here and and that's a compliment total to the fundraising skill that you obviously all have that have been so i just like to end with this final sentence keep working hard use this as just just kind of a springboard to redouble in your efforts thank you very much well i want to thank my colleagues and for putting this group of six together it could not have been better balanced it was balanced politically it was gender-wise absolutely and it was uh

1:25:55 balanced with our beliefs you know and and it's so clear people say we don't get along we get along and we and and uh when you take the politics out of it it makes it a lot easier now i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm i will say what we say in the congress we want to time is that i echo our chairman's viewpoint on the witnesses i he said it the knowledge the experience and the of this group of witnesses made it this such an important week for me and i know for many others uh actually with this amazing group of and uh that we heard and and as we we talked about this subject uh it made it absolutely impossible for me to remain a skeptic

1:27:07 but i i don't believe that it's about um i don't believe it's about belief i believe it's this whole situation is information and and the existence of ufos and ets is becoming accepted worldwide and the information we received was so important to support that and defend it but it's time for our government the u.s government to come to the party it's time for our government to and disclose what they know and they it is time that they trust the people of this country that uh they can handle this information whatever they think we can't handle because they are dead wrong and it's going to get in the way of the get along of this this nation we live in so uh we're not living in a flat earth

1:28:09 uh we know it and it's time that our government realizes it as well and they make it possible for us to go because if they don't i agree that the general public will and i thank you for making this all possible thank you absolutely blessed to have been given the opportunity to fill congresswoman julie's seat when she left earlier today i'd like to echo what congressman cook said about the heroic actions of the witnesses who came here this week and what um congressman bartlett said about those brilliant stars under that winter night in west virginia but what i'm here to suggest is that we stars who've shown just as brightly this

1:29:11 and other human beings who are here who were just as heroic and i'd like to share a little bit about that i shared my gratitude for congressman kilpatrick who was the first to say yeah i'll do it but there's other stories around that i'd like to share that i'd like everyone in the room to be aware of as well just before i do that though i'd also like to make a call out to those watching this on the internet stream or those who might be in the room or those who might see it in the weeks months years to come who have the opportunity to be heroic who do know about this who have evidence who could testify who live perhaps in fear and my call out to you is to do what these six members of congress have done which is to be heroic to stand up and recognize an allegiance if not to the constitution than to your fellow men

1:30:11 on this planet men and women on the to share what you know to be true about this issue uh congressman bartlett has been commuting two and a half hours every morning to be here two and a half hours back to his farm in virginia he's 86 years old sir you're a hero to me your commitment to our constitution and the principles of liberty that it embodies and yes senator grivel's right it never embodied them perfectly but it was a huge advance in the history of humanity on this planet to grant liberty to the people to see the government not as the giver of but as of rights being self-evident and inalienable for each individual your commitment to that is heroic

1:31:16 congressman woolsey who's sitting next to me right now authored legislation to protect whistleblowers that this government this congress refused to pass and we've been if you haven't noticed attacking whistleblowers for at least the last 12 years at an ever increasing rate it's unconstitutional it's anti-liberty it's criminal and she and i have partnered on bringing greater freedom to other social organizations and inclusiveness in other battles not related to this i mentioned carolyn being first earlier and i want to say how great a gift that was to all of us putting this together again somebody had to be first senator gravel when i called him said do you mind if i quote you on this and share a private phone call for a bit senator in the world of full disclosure he said how much money are you offering

1:32:17 ah damn it i usually do these things for free and this is the first time i can't go my wife and i just made plans to be on a cruise on the danube at that time and he changed his vacation plans cancelled his vacation very few people in this room know but just this past sunday congresswoman julie was in the hotel the washington planet plaza sobbing because she had just learned her sister had died a couple of days earlier in california and she'd had the opportunity to say goodbye to her sister but she was devastated and she came here anyway that's a hero to all of us and then one more and i'll conclude but i think it's fair to say as a fairly hardcore libertarian i've had a seething

1:33:18 contempt for most of congress for most of my life i'm currently serving as the chair of the national libertarian party's platform committee thinking about these issues of how do we save what was once the land of the free and the home of the brave and has become the land of the bailed out in the home of the terrorized by the tyranny of its government but i've fallen in love with congress this week you all been learning about ufos i've been learning about the great character of the men and women who actually do serve this nation and if you're representatives of what's still there even a portion of it all hope is not lost merrill cook invited me to come down and brief him he lives about a half hour from my home in park city and when i got there i discovered that he's the full-time caretaker for the love of his life and he has every door of his house

1:34:18 locked from the inside out so that she doesn't wander off she's suffering from and his one concern before he agreed to be here was if i come would it be possible for my wife to be in the audience where i could see her so that i know she's okay because i'll never put her in an institution she's the love of my life but i need to have her in a seat where i can see her with someone sitting next to her so i can focus on the testimony and sir if i if i could love my life wife half as much as i've seen you as an example of love to yours i'll be okay you sir our hero as well first of all i would like to thank the uh you'll be interested to know that i had considerable empathy with you to see all of that information being thrown at you

1:35:20 so fast and on a subject which was completely foreign to you and you did a remarkable job of accepting it adjusting it and being in effect transformed by it i wish that more people would be in that so that we could really get the word out and get the kind of action that we dream of but senator says may be just a dream but i hope not because time is running out so thank you very much each every one of you you are great and we what you have done and just hope uh mr chairman that you too all will redouble your effort when you go out to try and influence people to expose to this kind of information so that they too they understand

1:36:22 and the the witnesses i must say i agree with everything that's been said about them i have never seen anything like it in my life just absolutely transfixed seen more heroes in five days than i've ever before in my life except perhaps ve day or something but just wonderful people who are willing to stick their necks out because they're deeply committed in the search of truth and that's what we've got to do i hesitate to mention names because every single one of them should be singled out but i was thankful this morning to both richard and linda that they got us into some of the things that we hadn't been in before and i will never forget colonel french admitting that his job was to invent

1:37:24 the excuses for the ufos and that he designated a lot of them to swamp swamp we all knew that the swamp gas and the plasma and the balloons and all this sort of stuff was you know what but to have him say so was but he said something else that i think that is even more memorable to me and that is never put weapons in space but here to the space tree google the space treaty and listen to carol rossen on the reasons why we should have a common access to the space everybody and not try to see if we can outwit other in being the first to to spend a lot of uh putting weapons in space and uh i i feel very strongly on that it's

1:38:26 an issue which i've been involved in for a long while in which i will continue to support and final word is bob salas i also remember because he summed up the in one classic sentence it's power and greed it's not national security and that's what i and paul mentioned heroes let me introduce one now jesse do you have a few words to to say before we leave we all have a few words uh i'll keep these remarks short because everything's already been said really but i do want to express my appreciation and honor in presenting my story to this this panel that we have you know since 1947 i have known that we are not alone in this universe because

1:39:27 based on the material i saw that my dad brought in from the desert i realized this is not a human manufacturer so if we didn't make it i mean somebody else did and you know when you look at the night stars night sky there in new mexico you realize this beautiful place that we live in it's called the universe or our galaxy as a matter of fact there's a 10 to the 22nd power stores in the known galaxy which equates number of ranges sands on on the beaches of the earth and to say that only one grain of sand out of that multitude has sentient life like us around it is just uh begging the uh the question there because uh someone once said very truthfully that if we're if we're the only ones here there's an awful lot of wasted space out and uh so anyway you know i started thinking about this you know the people ask me did this uh how does this affect my religion you know my my belief in god well you know i believe in the intelligent design

1:40:27 because if in the very beginning uh at the big bang when when things were created uh if the parameters were changed just ever so slightly like the rate of expansion of the universe or the charge on the proton or the electron or the masses thereof had that been off by one trillion from what it turned out to be we wouldn't be here nor would our cousins from outer space be here too and uh i you know given my philosophy i think we're all related people of earth people of uh star set us you know wherever they come from we're all related to them because in the very beginning when the big bang there's something called quantum entanglement that occurred and einstein calls a spooky action at a distance but that means that all created in the big brain are related to each other one example is where they would take two matched particles send one of them could be light years away but you make one change in one

1:41:28 the other changes correspondingly instantly like there's a faster-than-like communication so uh hey guinea again we're all related we're in this universe and we have a lot of cousins out there