Citizen Hearing 2013: Science & Technology

0:09 okay so gentlemen if you're willing to do that if you would stand please and repeat after me i do hereby affirm that i will tell the and nothing but the truth to this committee today thank you so much first of all i want to say to all of the people that have testified you have done an incredible job when i was asked to do this i debated for a while and it's a subject literally i know very little about except what i read in the newspaper most of it years ago um i was a skeptic when i came and what i have found and this has to do with the credibility of the people that have testified

1:12 i want you to know that that i don't know what it is or how big it is but i do believe that we have um that there are spaceships whether they're friendly or whether they're enemies we have that they have been enough sightings of a human creature i don't know what it looks like and so i appreciate what you have the sacrifices you've made and what you've done and for those of you here testifying for family members or this is the first time that you've talked in public about this issue you are to be commended i know it has to be a difficult thing and it's easy for me because i just got to sit here and listen to all of you and so i just appreciate all of you that have been here and what

2:14 you have done and it was a privilege to sit and listen to your testimony so thank you very much thank you representative hooley we'll now start with our witnesses and i think we're allowing 10 minutes each that's great if i could ask dr wood would you begin thank you it's an honor to be included as the in 1966 i had been working about 13 years for one company and was doing well as a young engineering executive at douglas that was the year the air force decided to have a symposium dedicated to important developments in space 10 years hence and my boss ray hallett had been selected to speak for our missiles and space part of the company on how to better to get things to orbit and back

3:14 he asked what do you think we should talk about and i said partly as a jest why don't we just tell them how the alleged ufos do it he actually liked the idea and asked me to work on it that was when i read my ufo book actually one by don menzel the science arch skeptic and i saw clearly that he was ignoring the reported data i immediately read a dozen books on the a year later douglas had been bought by and we were now mcdonnell douglas and had just won the air force satellite program called manned orbiting my regular job was to manage our company research and development projects funds so that we would win small technology one day after i reported to a couple of eps on how we were doing one of them asked me personally if i was doing anything interesting outside my and i said well you're not going to believe this but i've read about 50 books on ufos and the amazing conclusion

4:16 i've come to is that they are very real extraterrestrial craft and the only thing that's uncertain is to whether we find out how they work before or after our competitor lockheed after a moment of silence one of them said how much would it cost to take a look at that question therefore we started a little project kept quite low-key to study the question of how they work everyone who worked on this project knew that when the project was over each would go back to his other job or be laid off this was when we needed to find someone to study the sightings and reports in detail to see if we could get clues as to how they worked and we hired stan we should have a picture of stan friedman up there right now as he looked in 1968 we did a lot of interesting projects such as measure the effects of a huge magnetic field on the speed of light there was none interview an abductee

5:18 try to invent a physics that would permit travel faster than the speed of developed an instrumented van to observe craft sightings anywhere anytime and spun magnets in space to try to change their weight it didn't change i also became friends with james e a physicist who is making a lot of noise and giving lectures about the details of highly credible jim mcdonald was very pushy to have my group get more exposure he urged me to visit the air force ufo content committee in 1967 before their report was complete and talked someone into inviting me to testify at a house science and astronautics committee symposium on unidentified flying objects i asked my management about this and they said do what you want but good things rarely happen to people who testify to congress i decided not to testify largely since i did not have any breakthroughs to even hint at and if i did they would have been the property of mcdonnell douglas

6:19 then the military orbiting program was cancelled in 1969 dozens of people were being laid off we were not making fantastic project progress in our project and i was assigned in 1970 to learn everything i could about radar and ballistic missile defense we canceled the ufo project and moved on this project's history was written up in both the international ufo reporter in 1993 detailing the results of my visit to the content committee and the mufon journal in 2008 elaborating on the details of who did what on this project and what we concluded i followed the topic of ufology from 1970 to my retirement in 1993 as an avocation but remained actively absorbing results and reports from mufam the center for ufo studies and subscribe to the flying saucer review which came in a brown paper envelope so you wouldn't know the

7:21 published in britain the consistency of alien reports occurring psychically caused me to be aware of other anomalous literature and i had the pleasure of meeting dean bob john of princeton university who was initiating a consciousness research at the same time my knowledge of radar put me in a position to manage a program with top secret access to various subjects i had read an article by dr hal putoff currently then at stanford research reporting on some amazing results in remote viewing we used our cia contacts to work out a test project on coordinate remote viewing where the subject is allegedly able to observe and describe what is at a specific earth this sensitive remote viewing project wound up being funded by james s mcdonald ceo of mcdonald douglas who was subsequently told by his lawyers that he

8:22 should not have used foundation money to accomplish work in his profit-making the results of one test of six targets were interesting but not spectacular we speculated that the viewer might have gone to a coordinate in time when the most emotional events were happening at that location this project also provided access to anything to do with ballistic missile and i used a nice classified library at another facility to see what there was on the defense against ufos there were quite a few intriguing reports available such as a classified version of the iranian air force f4 phantom jet pilot attempting to fire a missile at a ufo only to have his control shut down as soon as he thought about doing it then after i had borrowed and read quite a few of these anomalous reports the whole library system was changed so that it was no longer clear where to look for reports i also stayed aware of anomalies in science in general

9:23 and when the so-called cold fusion results of pons fleischmen were announced in 1989 i was aware that our company attempted a covert test to try to replicate the i was told we were not successful but by then i was working on advanced for nasa international space station and not involved in any proprietary activity after retirement in 1993 my focus on ufos became the authentication of leaked documents as described on wednesday if these documents are valid they are consistent in this telling the story of exposure to the alien technology attempts to understand it and many specific tales of successfully understanding the principles and building devices that have become the technology breakthroughs we all enjoy today there is a case to be made that the three crash recoveries of missouri in april 1941

10:23 and la in february 1942 430 rounds of ammunition during the famous la air raid resulted in a specific contract to study how germanium and silicon might be used in the preparation of semiconductors those individuals receiving reports and samples included edward condon and westinghouse the bell laboratories hans beta of mit radiation laboratory and shockley of bell telephone laboratories in 1945 who was given credit for inventing the transistor in 1947. these leaked documents taken as a whole visualize and speculate on the impact of alien technology on our in a diverse array of fields of science and technology and doctor you've got about one minute left on your time thank you all right then i'll ignore mentioning philip corso's so what of my opinion what's required to

11:24 understand how they work and to build the simple answer is i don't know but beyond that i could say i would look for the following four things first a way to cross the light years to stars without actually physically speeding past and through the space and space they breathe that separates us a way to interact with time in a reliable fashion through the equivalent of the so-called wormhole so that journeys would take years to wind up taking minutes third a way to permit a person's mind to interact with matter so reliably that all you have to do is think clearly and equipment does what you want it to if it's designed right finally to expect that the breakthroughs will come from unknown scientists probably pretty young who are looking outside the establishment's perspective of the solution i leave you with this thought that arthur clark's famous quote is highly applicable any sufficiently is indistinguishable from magic i think

12:26 that the millions of years that may separate us from the alien civilizations are not significant because logic does not change with time i expect that the laws of physics which we have yet to understand will be the same and so will the we just have to find them does some black program already have this knowledge okay thank you dr wood sweet uh could we see could we now uh have uh dr uh greer take 10 minutes thank you very much i appreciate being here again i would like to open with sort of a historical overview of advanced technologies that began in the late 1800s with the breakthroughs with maxwell and also faraday it turns out that the maxwell equations that were developed had a number of that resulted in what is now classic

13:27 electromagnetic theory this has resulted in a number of errors uh in the equations which are have been corrected by people who have looked at them very carefully between the late 1800s and 1929 there were a number of breakthroughs that ended up uh being suppressed that had to do with creating very high voltage vhv systems so that you could create a vector into what's now been called the zero point energy field and i refer the panel to jane's defense weekly writer nick cook and his book the hunt for zero this began to be explored by people like nikola tesla and others i have a department of defense uh document that has is on a flash drive for each member of congress that the conference has been given the citizens hearings has been given that shows that when nikola tesla died that this

14:27 information that he had which allowed for a car to run out of the ambient energy was in documents confiscated by the fbi and i have a department of defense document demanding that the fbi turn these over to the dod the fbi refused at any rate science continues because the laws of the universe are in universal and they can be discovered here or around alpha centauri or any else in the cosmos by 1928 and 29 t-towns in brown as well as the koloski frost experiment and physics in germany had determined that vhv very high voltage systems done in a certain resonant field could result in so-called electromagnetographic effect the lifter effect that has been described which you see in ufos they also can create what's called a space-time bubble around an object so that you can correct for one g

15:27 this is how these objects are traveling multiples of what any aerodynamic physics would describe and can make right hand turns without killing the around this same time there was in the and the late 1930s a number of ufo this included the so-called foo fighters yes it's a famous rock group however the foo fighters took their name from the reports of these objects seen in the theater of world war ii that were flying around our aircraft we thought it was a secret weapon of the nazis the nazis thought it was a secret weapon of ours uh there is jimmy doolittle the famous general his nephew is dear friend of mine and he has testified that general doolittle was sent by fdr over to the european theater in world ii investigated the foo fighters and came back and told roosevelt and i quote they are interplanetary vehicles

16:31 so by then there began a classified and which was augmented further by events as mentioned in 1941 and then of course the famous roswell event those events led to as philip corso describes a reverse engineering program as you all know from the famous wilber smith document of 1951 from canada it talks about that flying saucers exist but there's a high-level team headed up by dr van avarbush that is studying the quote motus of these vehicles these were the most brilliant scientists edward teller oppenheimer and others hermann oberth amongst others who are in this team studying how uh extraterrestrial vehicles move in october of 1954 a key date i want the committee to remember we have actionable intelligence from someone who has worked in the national security agency and has been in the vault all of this went deep black because they figured out at that point gravity control so since 1954 october

17:34 of that year we have not needed rockets internal combustion engines and surface roadways between cities i say this with authority that this is the case eventually these breakthroughs in human discovery were complemented by the of the extraterrestrial materiel that were retrieved from these events and contrary to most thoughts the roswell event was actually a downing of an extraterrestrial vehicle by a electromagnetic system that was hidden in a radar dome that was switched and this is an fbi document that i can provide for the committee and is on the flash drive given to the congress the result ultimately was that there were trans-dimensional physics that began to be studied that deal with the nexus between energy generation anti-gravity and consciousness and we'd have discovered

18:36 that there is a nexus and that in fact there are electromagnetic systems that have been that can interface directly with what we call coherent thought the same way that you can interface with a system with lasers which is coherent where you sync up all the wavelengths ultimately this these breakthroughs were paralleled with amazing developments in the biological sciences uh and the experimentation with cloning and this began many years earlier than was reported from dali the sheep in scotland this goes a little beyond i think what this committee wants to look into however you need to understand that the technologies that we have and we are discussing are not theoretical we have actionable that any committee in congress or executive action can find regarding current operations and i just want to go through a list of them very of these facilities and corporations for

19:39 which we have witnesses who can be subpoenaed by the committees of the congress this was developed at the request of congressman christopher cox of orange and with whom i met and was later further developed for the briefing for that we put together for president obama these facilities are the edwards air force base and subsections where uh on at the dry lake bed where the lockheed skunk works operations he's to haystack butte china lakes george air force base and the closed norton air force base were an anti-gravity device so-called alien reproduction vehicle for which we have the schematics was seen by frank carlucci and others on our witness team tabletop and blackjack control the aerospace facilities there are the northrop ant hill facility tejan ranch the mcdonald douglas llano plant lockheed martin helendale plant

20:39 and the phillips lab at the nellis air facility so-called area 51 no one calls it that there's s-4 and s-12 mesa groom lake and number of sub-facilities the most important facility is in utah near provo the dugway proving grounds all of which is underground and the airspace above it is classified there are no roads into this facility new mexico facilities include los alamos national labs with underground to the so-called dulce area where the biological work is being done and kirtland air force base and the complex there includes sandia national laboratories phillips labs mansano mountain weapons storage coyote canyon and the white sands in arizona near fort huachuca which is army intelligence headquarters there is a ugb underground base where one of our witnesses who will testify worked on nine separate extraterrestrial vehicles that had been down through

21:40 advanced electromagnetic pulse weapons and there are several different species of extraterrestrial biologicals stored at that facility the other facilities and this goes on include a special compartmented area of cheyenne mountain where we have witnesses in our team who can be where that we have tracked extraterrestrial vehicles in our solar that we're measuring 26 miles in there are also facilities in australia a key one being pine gap the so-called alice springs facility which is mostly a u.s air force facility even though it is in i recently talked to the deputy prime minister of australia about this also the redstone arsenal and the marshall space flight center we have a scientist at the redstone arsenal under who works under contract for itnt who have developed these trans-dimensional systems he was under contract with my project to bring these

22:42 energy devices out and he was then threatened by a former cia director and what i call the goon squad that went down there three years ago in march this is just part of the information we have and this information is on the flash drive given then that you're all welcome to review thank you thank you well done and well timed because that sign came up just about three seconds after you end it uh dr valone ten minutes i'd like to start with my slides and show them exclusively as i go through what i'm about to say is my own personal viewpoint is not related in any way to the federal government nothing i'm stating is reflecting government policy and they're my original thoughts as a private citizen next slide this is a presentation of what i'm familiar with and the uh my journey began in 1980 with the book called sunburst return of

23:43 the ancients by norman paulsen and the book was fascinating in the fact that there were a lot of very anomalous ufo details shown this particular side by side photo and the person who took the photo was the deputy sheriff holding the instamatic photo taken in broad daylight over giant rock this is fascinating because none of this has happened since then and van tassel george van tassel was for holding ufo conferences through the 50s and through the 60s i even talked to dr bob beck who witnessed one of these craft and as you can see there's some type of force illumination below the craft as well so i went out to the community and found what they were working on was a homopolar generator next slide the interesting part of the described the propulsion system as being 12 magnets around the outer edge of a very large disk size of the ship carrying off electrical

24:43 two disks in opposite direction provided gravity force whatever propulsion system they had so this particular passage i reprinted in my homopolar handbook next slide and also convinced my professor at the state university of new york at buffalo to let me work on it as a physics project for my master's degree in and i was very pleased to actually build a homopolar generator test it for back and unfortunately i measured back torque which means it slows down as you draw current from it so the mystery continued next slide i basically found that dr ed mitchell as you see here on the cover of extraordinary science magazine was also interested in the same topic bruce de palma was the source of the interest and he was building homophobe generators like crazy looking for investors one after another which he succeeded in doing however uh ed held onto his money which is in his breast pocket there and it was interesting about this particular cover

25:44 that came out years later was that the serial disk is also shown on the same magazine cover next to the so i thought this was sort of a coincidence or synchronicity and i ended up investigating the serial disk next slide and i met john cerl in 1980 in germany he actually became kind of a curiosity to me even today he still is he's still a living legend he claimed to have these discs as you can see here hovering and he had a ufo experience when he was young and then he started building these things so next slide i basically tried to help connected with different people he essentially became a little more well-known when he gave a talk in berlin in 1990 and then some russians discovered him because of that lecture in the video and decided to build what they described as a single uh roller magnet assembly with 12 roller magnets around the outer edge of a ring and so i started to think twice hey this

26:45 may be something related to what was called the moon disk back in the paulson book and that's one of the biographies you can get off the shelf anti-gravity to dream made reality by john thomas next slide so the the short long story short is that these roller magnets are individual homopolar and they definitely seem to lend itself to voltage generation if the whole ring could somehow be and that's the magic and the mystery behind the whole thing well the russians had a whole grocery list as you can see on the right of all these anomalies that they supposedly measured and so what i ended up doing next slide was to connect them to an investor which i constantly do throughout these years find the investor for the strange inventors put them together in this case we went to the department of the contact was very friendly to us offered a russian translator for us we did due diligence for the whole day and the investor was comfortable to

27:46 throw his money at the russian gold and roast inventions and the outcome was next slide the big prototype that cost a lot of money to which was built and completed in moscow and then it was retrofitted and completed again and again and even to this day it doesn't quite do what it's supposed to do but it certainly looks interesting uh next slide so the back to the george van tassel story since this is dealing with implications of extraterrestrial technology george's story is that he had lots of ufo experiences even rides on craft and so forth and his um would you say his download or his uh conclusion from all of these experiences was hey i'm going to build a healing chamber a rejuvenation chamber called the integratron and it's right near giant rock i've actually gone out next slide and it still is existence

28:46 today integratron.com and it's all wood construction with no nails next slide and it's very fascinating because it has these unusual die rods the whole assembly of dye rods was supposed to rotate and it also has a primary and secondary coil inside that looks like an inverted tesla coil so you get the impression that it would draw atmospheric electricity since it's very dry there it's feasible this would work and then charge up the inside with some of this energy next slide so that concludes the possible rejuvenation implications of et and what i'd like to conclude with is the zero point energy inertial shielding and electrogrammatics next slide first of all zero point energy is very famous i wrote a book on it i wrote two books actually and it's been confirmed even up to last week where our future energy news announced some new polymer pyrol that actually can't be explained

29:47 unless two-thirds of it is due to zero-point energy next slide and here we have the reason zero point energy may be important and we'll see if she can insert the 30-second video that's supposed to actually start i'm not sure if we're going to get a video or not but oh maybe okay yes okay this is an example of many you've probably seen some of these that the craft is spinning it's up close it looks like a legitimate authentic video amateur video and right about now you're going to see a very fast acceleration and that's what we've been talking about folks and the important part is that this introduces a concept which i'd like to share with the panel and that is inertia is involved and as we get to the next slide hopefully we can see that the inertial mass and gravitational mass

30:48 are totally different i repeat myself inertial mass and gravitational mass have nothing to do with each other einstein made a mistake years ago and called it the equivalence principle i studied it even grad school i took relativity and i took general relativity and so it's a fascinating to me that it's sort of a slide right after this and the important part is that nowadays inertia has been discovered to be a zero point field lorentz force by hash weather and put this is a seminal paper that's so important that it opens the door to actually controlling inertia and how any et craft or ufos could possibly have fast acceleration right angle turns and maybe even travel through the universe it turns out f equals v cross b a simple lorentz force at the bottom of the slide there showing how it works so when we go around the curve and you feel that moving you in the opposite direction it's an electromagnetic interaction next slide and this applies to

31:51 i heard one of the gentlemen on the panels questioning special relativity well that's inertial mass that is the m in relativistic increase in mass as you go toward the speed of light if you can shield inertial mass miracles and this is another demonstration i showed this slide to the deputy director of the nro national reconnaissance office in case you don't know what nro stands for and this is very important because as you see f equals m a newton's law can be modified if m can be shielded and it lowers then a could increase for the same amount of force next slide oh and by the way the nro deputy director said well things like this tend to become more and more classified until they're out of sight he says it's easier for us to reinvent it for a private contractor and i said you mean the taxpayers have to pay double for something like this and he said yes so here's another proof of inertial shielding and that is the right angle turn that's photographed here with open shutter 35 millimeter on tripod 2 am outside

32:53 stewart air force base the triangle craft started from the upper part and the shutter was open made a tremendous right turn then continued as if nothing happened red and green lights make it look like it's conventional next slide and dr valen you've got about one minute i understand i see and now the conclusion is electrokinetic helps explain how we can combine electrokinetics or electrogravidic and inertial shielding a pulsed current will produce a force next slide and i wrote a book on the electrovitix effect that's even present in the b2 bomber thanks to paula violet's work and research and originally starting with towns and brown's research next slide and the conclusion is and i have to give thanks to mark mccandlish who gave a testimony of dr greer's 2001 disclosure project in dc since we know once in a while such an electro-kinetic powered craft are put on as this one was in 1988 in norton air force base which is also his entire testimony is

33:55 reproduced thanks to mark in my book electro vedics too and this was also verified and investigated by dr al pudov and i talked to him personally about the story of norton air force base showing hovercraft and he did his due diligence with it and he says he put it in his gray box of possible events thank you thank you very much uh we'll uh now be going to roger leer if you wouldn't mind uh before i begin could you tell us what d d uh p pm stands for a doctor of podiatric medicine okay thank you thank you i want to thank the chair of the committee mr cook honorable members of the committee members my fellow colleagues that are here and guests for allowing me to present this material

34:56 to you today i know we have certain time so i'll we will do my my very best to stay within those time constraints i've already submitted a written document which i will read to the committee and i've also to you some paperwork which is of a scientific nature of our findings but i have not stated anything of my own personal background so i'd like to take a very short period of time to do that i have a degree as a bachelor of science a doctor of podiatric medicine i did research with dow corning for a bone replacement implants i've been participated in research and tendon i have a good knowledge of the biological workings of the human

35:57 i was also for three years the chairman of a committee at the lebanon hospital in hollywood california head of the diabetic clinic and director of residency training program at a hospital in simi valley california if anyone had told me at that time that i would be involved in anything in the ufo field or traveled to 42 countries and participated in the things that i have participated in relative to ufos i would have said they're nuts uh strange things have happened in my life that were very asynchronistic uh one of these was my cousin's occupation as a phd psychology uh professor at the university of who wrote a series of books on the near

36:57 death experience one of the books he wrote was called the omega project and it was funded by the university of connecticut but the interesting thing that the story that he was trying to portray or the research project itself was to look for a common psychological profile between those who ufo experiences and those that had near-death experiences the end result was there wasn't any it was a totally entirely different at that time i was just getting into into the field and he asked me if i like to have his research material because he no longer was going to be doing anything with ufos i accepted and expected to get a little i got boxes and boxes and boxes of material research work and books

37:58 from uh some of the best-known authors in the field of ufology now it's a two-way street i came here not only to present information but also to learn information for example i was very interested to learn at the eisenhower speech not only talked about military industrial complex but the industrial congressional complex i thought that was very informative i thought that they thought it was very informative to learn that the oaths that were taken by military officers and other officers in was to the constitution of the united states and not to any particular committee or policy so i am here also as a student to learn from you what i've planned today and ask you that again with time constraints is that at

38:58 the end of my presentation i'm allowed to ask you just two questions which may be answered any one of you that would like to take the challenge of answering it we'll be willing to suspend to do that thank you i appreciate that mr chair now i'd like to read the written presentation that i've prepared and submitted to the committee i with my surgical team of medical performed 16 surgeries for the removal of foreign objects from those individuals who allege alien abduction the 16 cases involved removal of 17 separate and distinct objects one of these objects turned out to be a small run of ceramic-like glass which was manufactured by dow corning industries in almost my 50 years of podiatric surgical

39:59 practice i have removed literally hundreds or numerous numerous objects from the human foot including paper glass metal stones hair coral many other including secret metal at one time a patient came in with two gentlemen and suits and the proper identification he worked as a machinist for an aerospace company i removed the object and they said and so i handed them the material that i removed from the individual's foot later come to find out that it was a new that was experimental for the use of rocket valves in rocketry the individuals involved in this study all presented with the no noted portal of entry for any of the objects that were removed there was no visible scar formation and there was no interruption of the integrity of the

40:59 even when examination was performed with a magnifying loop not only examining the area involved but a large amount of the peripheral area all the individuals in the study presented with positive x-rays or ct scans showing metallic or lesser dense foreign objects prior to the surgical procedures performed the areas of interest were examined by the use of a gauss meter for magnetic or electromagnetic emissions ten of them were found to be producing readings on a gauss meter of 6 to 10 milligrams that is a large amount for a very small object that varies in size from approximately 6 to 10 millimeters in length and about the diameter of a pencil lid now i understand that from the crew here and some of the television people i've worked with that a modern television camera produces about 4.3 milligauss of emissions

42:00 so here's a very small object producing 10 milligauss of emissions now um we in addition to these type of examinations we used frequencies of ultraviolet light to detect fluorescence in the area of the object about 60 percent presented with positive uv light fluorescence with color ranges pink green to yellow one of the last surgical patients displayed a large chevron appearing area like an insignia on the outside of the right arm near the shoulder he had no prior knowledge of it being we have also found that the removal of this fluorescent material with ordinary only makes them disappear for intervals of approximately one hour but when we examined again they appear again with the use of ultraviolet light

43:00 with varying frequencies in addition by use of radio wave frequency detector we were able to detect at certain radio frequencies in the fm band both in the megahertz and kilohertz were being admitted from the object it was determined that in one case the frequency is detected and this is a chart that i was able to obtain through sources that i will not be able to mention but these frequencies were noted fixed or mobile deep space frequencies unfortunately our limited budget for performing this research has not allowed us to obtain a radio frequency analyzer so that a radio wave could be captured and analyzed all surgeries you have about one minute i just wanted to make you aware of that so you could you got about one minute yes sir all the surgeries we performed were documented with eyewitnesses video and photography we established a chain of

44:01 and protocols for a forensic chain of all the objects were placed in sterile containers using the patient's own blood serum these containers are signed and not opened again until they reach the laboratories i will skip some of the material because of time constraints we find that in all pathological reports there is no inflammatory reaction there is no rejection reaction there is no an exhaustive research of human science there is nothing that we have found in material science that will produce absolutely no inflammatory reaction in the human body these objects all do also in addition they are surrounded by a large amount of specialized nerve endings called proprioceptors and these are areas which are not consistent with grey's anatomy the pathology reports an examination we have sent to material science laboratories some of these

45:01 include los alamos national laboratories new mexico tech university california san diego laboratories in san antonio texas as well as numerous other laboratories outside the country a research research scientist on our science board has enabled us to do some of our own scientific studies i've already described some of the length and size of the objects doctor i absolutely hate to do this but your time has expired and what we're going to do though is suspend and allow you your request and i would ask the members of the panel to keep their answers not questions their answers here as short as possible so that we can at least get five minutes for our questioning of this technology panel that i'm how often do you get to hear from four phd physicist scientist everything else

46:01 so i want to have plenty of time for our questions but go ahead you want me to be finished no no no i want you to ask the question you've asked me to change the rules in order to ask what i'd like to ask you number one is do you uh in your present positions being retired or congress people senator do you consider the united states to be a world superpower anybody who wishes to answer that in terms of military capability in force in terms of intellectual capacity and guidance now congressman kirkpatrick would you like to add anything to her with the center exactly thank you now

47:07 this will be very short let's assume that what we learned from them up there let's just assume hypothetically that this is a reality what kind of a position would you think that the united states would be on a world scale if a third world country a renegade country would release the entire amount of information to the public of the world it couldn't do anything in fact that's one of the things we hope that if the issue is brought before the general assembly and has voted to hold a global conference then that conference will be its own guide regardless of the united states of america or britain or any other country because it will be beyond their control and that's one of the

48:08 reasons why i personally would like this issue to go before the general assembly and not go before the congress which i think would just continue the cover-up that we've experienced from the government for the last 50 years i would say that there's probably not a person in this room that would not agree with you what others and that that is is not totally true what you just said but um i do believe that it would make a huge huge difference i actually think it would make the people the world certainly people the united states even better i think if we had absolute knowledge of these things a piece would be more a unified approach towards really finding out answers of other things to eliminate suffering and disease and everything else would be vastly enhanced i think there's a lot of wonderful good i don't necessarily think the united states would slip into second place on

49:08 anything i'm have a little bit of difference with my esteemed colleague from alaska on that i've got to say i'm impressed with the credentials of the people we've heard uh people with doctors degrees in medicine and we have in other words two that are clearly at the highest levels of biological science if they're medical degrees which i assume dr lear and dr greer have and i think dr vaughn i think you're a physicist as is dr wood and in the physical area so we've got this is a unique opportunity to hear physical and biological scientists of great stature and qualification so i'm going to ask dr wood a question i started asked the other panel which i wouldn't have asked if i'd known this panel was this qualified in the area one of the biggest

50:09 concerns of people that one of the biggest reasons why people don't believe that ufos have extraterrestrial origins is this whole question of the speed of i'm going to ask robert wood how how old or large do you think the universe is you're a physicist you've probably thought about these things i think the latest estimate is 20 billion years okay about how large is the milky way galaxy which is just a very tiny little little part of i think the diameter is about 50 000 light years it's a 100 000 light years yeah and and yeah it used to be in the at that time it was 50 it's today it's considered to be about 100 000 with the so if we only went 10 uh tell me if i'm right about this if we were only able to send and craft one-tenth the speed of light if

51:10 the universe is 15 or 20 billion years old which i think you've said you think couldn't a spacecraft go from one end of a hundred thousand light-year galaxy to the other end of that galaxy in a period of the time of the this universe has been in existence 15 000 different times and go back and in other words why is the speed of light such a big problem that's what i'm trying to understand i'm not trying to say it stops the idea i'm saying am i right that the craft could go 15 000 times from one end of the galaxy the in the amount of time it's it's happened we think in terms of our own time but i'd just like you to respond to that well i'd like to answer that in two parts the first part has to do with the organizational name we are working with paradigm research group and the idea of paradigm is that the

52:11 concepts of science get changed suddenly and newton had a paradigm of f equals m a and einstein came along and said now that's quite not quite right when you go close to the speed of light you've got different and so the old paradigm was overthrown my thought here is that the current paradigm that we have that you can't travel faster than the speed of light is it might be overthrown by what dr gerr had said earlier namely there's a difference between an inertial mass but but it wouldn't be true though if we if we could go the speed of light it be just 15 000 times doing that we could do that 150 000 times in other words speed of light that isn't really a barrier to the speed of interstellar travel is it in my opinion the speed of light is not a barrier okay that's what i wanted to do what's to happen on this moment because uh one of the areas that that i don't know how much has been talked about prior to today is the whole area of trans-dimensional physics so if you're dealing with three-dimensional space or four-dimensional space-time

53:13 you have one set of equations but when you deal with very high voltage systems that cause an in what's called this spin spin theory mass and also inertia you have another whole set of equations which have not been disclosed yet that then become operative so that you can go from here to the end of our and back controlling for time on earth right now in a matter of perhaps minutes or days and i don't know and this is where this gets i'm gonna reclaim the time just to say this i don't i don't i mean i i can believe that we have uh yeah wormholes may well be true and so forth but what i'm trying to say is that the wormhole theories have not been established near as established as the uh the speed of light and the first uh relativity theory of have been established so what i'm trying to say is we don't have to establish i'm trying to ask you we don't

54:14 necessarily have to establish some of physics which may well be true that could be established into the future in which there are some interesting indications from the even the past that might be happening yeah so i'd like to and so so will you respond to that we've run a conference in future energy almost every year now it'd be one in july at the university of maryland again we've had david frowny there several times as speaker he's a professor from the university of adelaide in australia and he particularly has worked on this he actually has simulations of one times the speed light five times and so forth he treats it just like the sound barrier and he literally has uh equation comparisons for the speed of sound speed light and so forth so my emphasis is trying to make it and that is the uh inertial mass is the to understanding how this is possible and the special relativity equations which i'm very familiar with only deal with inertial mass so fact you

55:16 recognize my time really quickly yeah and artificial intelligence being involved in the control of certain vehicles as opposed to natural intelligence being in control couldn't we also overcome some of these barriers that people have been talking about i mean we send artificial intelligence today out into space is that a the advanced extraterrestrial technologies do deal with uh technologies that cross into the conscious quantum hologram and directed thought my time has expired i can't violate what i make everybody else live by but uh we will now go to uh to congresswoman wilsey okay the first thing i want to do is thank you all for uh adding an even deeper level

56:16 of credibility to this uh hearing that we've had this week thank you very much the subject of ufology is so out there that we have to many of us have to just know that because of who you are what we're doing uh is the what we should be doing so but speaking of what we should be doing my question to each of you to answer uh in the time we have is where do you believe that the united states ranks in preparation to meet the the global needs for the future and uh where will the brilliant students that will become adults like yourselves only some of them have to be women come from to meet the numbers we're going to need well when you asked the question that my immediate reaction was when you said the united states yeah i

57:17 asked myself who's really in charge of the answer to your question that's a good question and so i think the issue which we're dealing with is a truth embargo issue and this enormous secrecy which controls and dominates our entire process maybe even including the educational process but if you talk about the ordinary world that we mostly most of us think that we we live in uh cl clearly we we need to establish the the ideas that new ideas as the discoveries as stan friedman said come from doing things differently in an unpredictable way so i think we need to emphasize the importance of creativity in developing the next set of equations that we need and may have already been discovered but we need to to make our society better and stronger thank you well i think we already have everything we need to create a

58:18 poverty free world it's already extant and this is very good news the very bad news is that there is a ruthless deep national security state that the people i have worked with have run into that is this massive buzz saw and i think that at a certain point we the people and the congress and the united nations and other countries have to come together and say we've had enough of this nonsense and i do not think this is going to come from an executive order from the president i think it's going to come from people stepping forward and i wish to emphasize that as i did the other day that in 1998 we declared these unacknowledged special access projects unconstitutional a priori illegal and we encouraged and we now have over 500 people who have come forward to give information documents and what have you on this and i think we need to continue to do that i think we have to say to people who are really not responsive to the people that this is still a world of liberty and we have to be free

59:19 to know the truth thank you very good dr valon can i show uh slide 23 please as i'm talking um what i'd like to explain is i agree with our co-panelists and that is the united states already has these this technology and i had the privilege of talking with a former black project engineer spent the whole afternoon with him taking pages and pages of notes one of which is actually in front of me right here and what i learned is first of all he taught me all the details of creating an layered semiconductor that with bismuth in between and magnesium and zinc with the same percentages that when slide 23 pops up you'll see that was published years before in a co colleague's book called secrets of anti-gravity propulsion and paul dr paula violet only let me a year later he said oh this sounds like

1:00:21 what i learned from another black project engineer who actually was through aviation weekly over in england so this is very interesting because my contact told me so many things i couldn't believe i just took the notes down but after i corroborated this with linda molten art artifact as well we have three different collaborations within one percent variation of the same artifact in fact slide 24 if she gets that up will also show the actual semiconductor but the important part is that we have the technology students are contacting our integrity research institute all the time saying what should we study and this is i used to be a college teacher you need the 13 chapters with questions and answers at the end of each chapter and the books need to be written the zero-point energy book the electrobitics book these the textbooks are the textbooks of the future and the students are already waiting to study the stuff so this is the book i'm talking about and if we progress to the next slide we'll see the

1:01:22 page that paul was talking about and this to me was amazing synchronicity so i started to believe the other stuff that this black project fellow told me and that is we already have a base on mars which is established in 1970s and i said oh i don't believe that he says oh go go check the nasa records of the greenhouse gases from mars atmosphere they increased in the 1970s i mean that was his counter counterpoint and so forth he says we have a deep space platform he even gave me a jaw dropper and that was the gulf breeze ufo conferences that almost amazingly always had a ufo sighting during the conference he says i know the guy who ran that craft it was a back to engineered craft he just did it for fun fly over the ufo conference and create some stir so this is the kind of problem we have all right thank you boys with toys thank dr larry i have a different approach okay i'm very pessimistic i believe that the knowledge the basic

1:02:25 knowledge of all this having to do with we've been using the term extraterrestriality is a more general term than it should be used because we really don't understand the entire ramifications of the universe we don't know whether this is a whether there are various time areas involved but someone does know and i believe that at one time at the days of majestic 12 and eisenhower truman and so on and the state that the world was in it was necessary to keep this a secret from the public but now i believe again i'm sorry to be pessimistic i believe this has moved on from governments the united states or any other government into the hands a greedy industrial complex that does

1:03:26 want it to change time has expired thank you very much we'll now go to when i'll go to representative bart thank you very much because i want our deliberations to be most favorably uh perceived i have one little question i'd like to get cleared up i understand that a bit ago there was a petition being circulated in one of our suggesting that the city water work should stop putting dihydro oxide into the water system because if in the future it was determined to be hazardous to health that could never be removed dihydroxide of course is water and it's true that if you put it in there it can never be removed my question has to do with a comment that was made uh both yesterday and the day before that uh we're looking at getting energy from water now i'd always thought of water as the ash you get when you burn

1:04:27 hydrogen so i'm wondering what am i missing here unless you're talking about nuclear energy i'm having some trouble understanding how you get chemical energy from an ash yes can you help clear this up for the record i can and we did a great deal of research on this and actually have a proposal that i've given to the chairman uh for you to look at uh stan meyer and other people have found that using very high voltage systems at certain resonant frequencies causes a recruitment of energy from the ambient zero point energy field that was spoken about so that you can break the hydrogen oxygen bond so you have two gases that you can and when you burn it the only effluent water vapor because it recombines now this is actually was done uh and and it was operational unfortunately stan meyer died under mysterious conditions and he took those secrets to his grave his twin brother is still living and people who work with him are still their number of them want to work with us in an r d project to do this so we the internal combustion engines we have now to water engines and this is not

1:05:29 a pipe dream this is actually that something that can be done so my question question sir then i can believe that they did this but unless they're violating the second law of thermodynamics which i don't think we think is that they're not violated there's going to be less energy come out than you put into splitting the no that's the that's the whole point of what's called an over unity system maybe this didn't get covered is that you're setting up an electromagnetic pointing vector and we can violate the second law of thermodynamics no no sir no because what the no there's constant conservation of energy but there's another energy field that hasn't been accounted for and caught and some call me called the higgs field thank you for getting this in there so there is absolutely no violation of the second law of thermodynamics none at all and that's a very important thing to understand you're actually taking energy it's been estimated that every cubic centimeter space in this room has enough energy to run the earth for a day if you could tap it properly through these systems so that means the energy is there but you have to be able to create a vector into that energy field the zero point

1:06:31 energy field he's talking about the the quantum vacuum in other words okay i just want this cleared up because i think many people understand chemistry as i do that water is the ash you get when you burn hydrogen and it's hard to get energy out of ashes thank you for for clearing that up i think that there's a general consensus that if these uh ufos are real and if they're extraterrestrial that they somehow have learned to do what we would love to be able to do and that is have an anti-gravity thing okay uh i don't know how much we know by reverse these things how much we know about that whatever we know about it do you think that information is being made available stephen hawkings i haven't heard he died so i guess he's still alive and people like him who are trying to harmonize the mysteries of the universe relativity and gravity and so forth do you think it's being i hope it's being made available to them you think not if you're talking about black project discoveries from back engineering

1:07:31 no i'm sorry it's the same as the government uh they're all in the dark and and they literally are opposed to anything that would violate their little classical laws of physics that they're used to i know i've dealt with professors all my and unfortunately it's a big dichotomy between the ivory towers that they sit and the black project guys that say hey the laws of physics need to be rewritten and that exact quote has been used many times for those investigating the black and black world it's literally called it's not just the laws of physics that's be rewritten the laws of physiology have to be rewritten because if there are people if they're if they're entities uh in these um uh craft the maneuver maneuvers they make we couldn't survive it yes we can that's what i tried to explain in my slideshow i'd be glad to pull up a slide 18 again in slide 17. this is very important discovery that's been made and i'm one of the few that have put these things together to describe 17 which is the inertial

1:08:32 inertia in other words inertial mass is now known to be a zero point energy right and and the slide you're looking at right here is slide 18 that's the conclusion of that the previous 117 is the journal article that is probably front page news and should be because once inertia now is discovered to be an electromagnetic phenomenon that's um that's an exact uh in other words and if we go back one slide the journal article obviously is something we need to refer to because how put off was responsible for that bernie hayes who i know personally was also responsible and they proved it they literally did uh stochastic electrodynamics to conclude that it's simply a lorentz force f equals v cross b and if you know what i'm talking about v cross b velocity crossing with a magnetic field gives you a force and you see that in electromagnetism but who would know you could see that in a movement of a vehicle and but you do in other words you're moving to the right you want to turn to the right and your body is going to the left

1:09:33 that's the lorentz force that's exactly what you see in electromagnetism and now we find that it's in vehicular movement as well so therefore this is an interaction between the zero point field which is all around us and the individual electromagnetism of your body of the craft and exactly that means shielding is and once the shielding is possible you've got all those my time has expired thank you very much now i would like to go to our new questioner dr bookman who by the way ran for congress from my state not too many years ago five or six years ago i not against merrell though against your colleague rob bishop um dr greer you mentioned 25 mile wide craft 26. 26 mile wide craft and you mentioned that you believe the military industrial complex has a program of shooting them have we shot down one that big in your opinion for my witness to my knowledge those have not been uh uh targeted we do have witnesses

1:10:37 uh and there is a number of testimonies from pilots where attempts to target and bring them down have occurred and i think that we have to understand that 2.3 trillion dollars in unaccounted funds in the military-industrial complex have resulted in some very strange things going on i call this strange lovian complex where there are folks who are doing things without proper oversight from the congress or the president that are really a threat to our national security the briefing i did for the head of the defense intelligence agency general patrick hughes really focused on this and i have never spoken of this publicly until now but the big concern was is that there was a cabal or a deep national security operation of he knew nothing and did not control that doing some rather dangerous things that could endanger not only our nation but the world and i think this is an existential threat to not only world peace and i think we have to start thinking not just of world peace but of interplanetary relations and universal peace but to get more specific there are

1:11:40 emp electromagnetic pulse systems and others that involve scalar or longitudinal waves that are as opposed to a light wave that moves like this or longitudinal that have been weaponized and as uh verner von braun uh uh stated in the last years of his life through our disclosure project witness carol rosen that these sort of technologies were being deployed in the space and should not be moreover there's a number of false flag operations that have happened says was referred to in gulf breeze where there have been objects that appear to be e.t that aren't and contact events that appear to be alien that aren't and these include the manufacturer at egng near the nellis of a number of implants as you know from witness mr palik who worked with the cia they were manufacturing up to 2 billion of these in the 70s and 80s this interview is on youtube there's a number of things i have not had time to go into

1:12:40 that i really do believe are an existential threat to our planet and i wish we had time to go into this right yeah maybe on the break maybe people can read up on this too if i'm doing my dual job correctly i have about three minutes left somebody timed me and cut me off or i'll go forever thank you for that if i understand correctly linda molten how george knapp dolan yourself have had conversations with people deep in the military industrial complex who've told you off the record privately it would make a great movie i gather by the way disclosure the serious movie is a great movie as well if the united states congress or what would what would you need what what do you feel they would need from the united states congress in order to be able to feel safe testifying on 60 minutes or somewhere i mean i appreciate your point dr lear and others have made this that we have an oath to the constitution not to some independent agency that's gotten out of control correct what would it take for those people to be free to their

1:13:40 secrecy oaths such that they could appear in the media publicly on these issues well i think the question is would the media even allow it as i mentioned when abc news wanted to do this with 35 digital hours of top secret testimony uh ira rosen was shot down by corporate that's one question the other question i think some of these people and and the the briefing i put together for the that went to him to be a john podesta center of american progress uh was oriented towards getting those executive actions done because we need federal martial protection for some of these people i know who they are i'm holding their documents it's part of i hate to say this my part of my dead man trigger if anything happens to me it'll hit the internet um i'm probably more valuable alive and dead well the point of doing of of keeping the secrecy there but i'm not going to violate people's confidentialities what i will say is that there's an enormous amount of actionable intelligence we have and

1:14:40 can be provided including members of this majestic committee with whom i've and many of them would like to see this information come out the problem is lethal force has been threatened and used and i think that this has become something that needs an fbi congressional investigation and and subpoenas i i have one minute left if i've timed myself correctly here i'll i'll do this yes sir are you saying there's nothing congress could do to pass legislation when i ran for congress i called for legislation protecting whistleblowers last this administration has been prosecuting whistleblowers like crazy right and i said we need to protect whistleblowers and waste fraud criminal activity in the ufo issue and all the media focused on in my campaign was ridiculing me over ufos thank you media is is there anything congress could do such that those people would feel safe yes they can issue subpoenas and they can also require the federal martial protective services to protect them and they would be and i think that this

1:15:41 is something that can be done if there was the will and the intent within the congress barring that i think we've brought out as many people as we can one of my frustrations is too many people and having too much information that i can't give actual intelligence on to the general public without violating i i take this like a doctor with patient without protecting those people's confidentiality but we have this i would love to be subpoenaed so i could give it over to a product i've heard that from george knapp and others as well you're not alone in that there are a lot of witnesses that if protected would come out and with that i see my time is up yes thank you thank you dr brookman we'll now go to uh senator gravel i am not qualified to get into the technical discussion but i would say dr wood referred to you know if the black area has this knowledge

1:16:45 you've pointed out that whoever was the head of this cia at the time you know shut shut the door on and and i would and dr fallon we've heard testimony before about the the fact that somebody was boasting from one of these black areas which is these contractors that we have the capability to take e.t back home uh is that something briefly says squares with your knowledge at this point in time absolutely that's a quote from the former ceo of lockheed i believe yes been rich ben rich so it's a famous quote well then it's true if you think that's believable and that's a quote from the head of a corporation you know this is criminal because we go back to uh what dr greer

1:17:45 was saying that you know we have the capability of of sharing this technology and freeing up the world to an unbelievable level so so so we you know we stand capable of indicting in the in the area of public opinion the head of what lockheed yes well that's right skunk works and he he knew what he was talking about because he had all the that's fine i'll accept that he knows what he's talking about he's depriving the world possible all of you all four of you you interface with scientists in a whole black area you know you're you're trying to talk you're talking where's their moral well i can answer that if you where is it they got a hole somewhere but ben rich wrote a book and he specifically described the sundown rule and i wrote about it it's on our website it's one of the recommendations we have the sundown rules should be enforced and that is classified fine how many you have to put a time limit on every classified document and therefore it's it's going down the sun's going down in 10 years and it

1:18:45 becomes free and the public gets access to it right now we have about 50 years well i got to tell you the congress has tried to put that kind of a rule in on the laws and it's never worked well this is why i love you well this is why i think in the tradition of of martin luther king in the tradition of susan b anthony in the tradition of thomas jefferson we should say the hell with these games people who know this i believe as you said have a moral obligation to our children and our grandchildren to step forward with the truth with the technology and with the information because there is a national security deep state that has basically thumbed its nose at the and for that reason there is no no of for the continued secrecy and i think one of the things all of us as citizens have to decide is whether we're going to do that or not could it be risky yes do we have to make sacrifices yes uh but you know part of it is gets into every everybody puts their pants on one

1:19:47 leg at a time i was talking to the deputy director of the national science and i turned to him and i said we really need your help getting this information this technology out he says yes i'd love to but it'd be the end of my career and i said okay on one hand we have the fate of the future of humanity on the other hand we have your career your selfless career i saw your film the other night i want to compliment you on it i just i thought that was awesome but but let me just uh i think i said it er and earlier today you know nobody questions authority anymore the whole population is gutless and and we and we beat our we pat ourselves on the back that that were so wonderful we're the leaders of the world my god we are stifling the ability of the world to go forward and and and we've we put that aside because oh we're questioning our well we need to question our patriotism

1:20:48 we need to i want to give one example when the pentagon papers was sent over to the house and the senate they were put under guard and a member could only go in and read them and couldn't take any nodes that and i was 42 years old when i was 23 years old i could classify top secret documents are we not at a situation where it's absolutely ridic and then after they were released it was moot the supreme court was made the congress was made moot and and the decision was made that any member of congress can release any information of all these secrets and it hasn't since 1972. so the indictment is on us as a congress and that's the reason when the whole purpose of this hearing was we'll take this to congress and have another hearing boy that's just taking the issue and putting it on a shelf forever and it just won't happen

1:21:49 yeah i'll yield for a question or a the sunset rules actually are in effect uh the brady gun laws sunsetted after five years and uh there was no and then it wasn't i mean we never went back and visited it so it's there when and it depends on precedence the issue and it depends on who's the in the leadership if there's yeah but well the sunset principle is congress has the to go back and see anything we have an oversight capacity if there's one activity in the congress that's not dealt with properly is our oversight capacity i couldn't agree with you more and in fact when i've met with over oversight chair for example congressman dan burton members of the senate intelligence committee who are in office uh they're very but what i have found there's a disconnect between what people want to and what people want to do there's a fear of touching the subject because of

1:22:50 the ridicule factor and other reasons and i think we just have to become more courageous well and also know what you're going to ask for for declassification i'd like to meet with you later anyways there's an office of declassification in college park maryland that's where the official federal government office of declassification is it's you can approach them and if you know what to ask for that's the key then you can ask for it to be declassified your time is not quite expired right there it's already oh i don't know it just expired there it that's why you're saying my time asking the questions now we'll go to uh representative kilpatrick now i'm questioning now right that's your question okay thank you mr chairman members of committee excellent panel excellent way over my i did see serious the other night which was also way over my head but i got parts of it and the whole week has helped me get more and more but your sitting here

1:23:51 brings back for me the validity the intelligence and the necessity of moving forward with this incident it's just you gotta have to do it and you all have provided without even saying it as an introduction the that exists in the world that we don't now yet display that we have we may have it i don't know we don't display that we it's a real critical concern to our national security and to other things so i want to commend you for that i think that's excellent dr lear i want to go to you you talked about removing 16 objects from people i think in my reading and preparation that was implantation and i might have that wrong is that the right word that is absolutely correct oh good okay hey i'm learning something here okay then when you and it also is related to people who have been implanted with and you described that it was a different kind of material that didn't meet the usual which means to me it came from somewhere else is that correct that's correct i submitted to the committee a set of scientific documents

1:24:52 that show some of the latest work and findings that we find in the material science of these objects but i want to point out too that to my absolute shock was a paper that was given to me through the freedom of information act in which it describes all my work in the ostp in the white given to president obama at the time he was trying to raise money for the medical care bill and the individual that wrote the article stated if my work was not correct or the work done by my team was not correct and that it was secret work that was done by some governmental agency this also should be released to the public because it would save billions of in health care and what is the implication break that down for me well if we took just the fact that there

1:25:54 is no inflammatory response of these objects and no rejection of these objects you can see that you could take anything that we use medically a pin a screw a nail a heart a kidney any of the organ place it into the body the body would not reject it and the individual would not have to be on very expensive anti-rejection medication for the rest of their lives now that has nothing to do at all with the material science associated with these objects that we found here where this is a very advanced these are nanotechnological devices in which nanocarbon tubes either single or double wall i won't go into the whole explanation but they can be elongated and weaved into carbon nano fibers carbon nano strands

1:26:55 and they end in crystalline structures which are what we call orthorhombic which are regular rectangular structures and we have to remember that in the early days when i was a child and radio and you got a crystal set with a battery and an earphone and you were able to get a radio station that was a marvel so here's a very very advanced nano i say nano technological i'm talking about things that are on a level of the size of an using the principal elements of certain putting them together in such a way so that you're actually broadcasting or switching what we perceive as a radio which may not be a radio wave it could scalar technology which when reaches our electromagnetic spectrum

1:27:55 is converted to a radio wave harmonic which i know is a little bit complex but it is sending information to somebody so somebody out is listening to something going on in our bodies now we know that even john glenn when he went into space originally complained on public that he had to swallow implants because this was if vital information needed on the of the body to know what was going on in and so therefore your conclusion you and your team as it relates to health care as it relates to our country as it relates to our budget and to our phenomenon topic we've been talking about today what do you conclude well i conclude that if there was funding at least funding or uh open mindedness from the scientific community which here is not because they also pray to higher masters

1:28:57 they don't want to lose their jobs they families to feed they don't want to look at this stuff in the way that we've looked at it for the benefit of mankind thank you very much if we can bring up sly 25 i would like to show 25 26 and 27 very quickly and that is scalar waves are hugely important because what dr lear just mentioned is a big um another overcoming of the speed of light problem with electromagnetic waves traveling so there's no communication possible across the milky way well turns out there is and this is a proof of it the chilbolton crop circle based on the arecibo message that was sent out in 1974 we all of a sudden have this amazing phenomenon that shows a scalar generator antenna right at the bottom of of the diagram that copies this diagram actually is the original one that was sent out in 1974 and for maricibo it's a digital

1:29:57 message that was sent out with the most powerful telescope available at the time thanks to frank drake study program and what happened in 1990 i don't have the exact date here 19 2001 august 2001 uh next slide there was an appearance of the crop circle overnight right next to a radio telescope in chilbolton england and the amazing thing was it wasn't just a regular crop circle this thing had almost exactly the same one-to-one correspondence to the urcebo slide 26 please and then slide 27. and that's exactly what the thing looked like this crop circle is just a bunch of crops that are down or up and then the next one is 27 and we see at the bottom of 27 instead of the arecibo antenna which is a parabolic dish we're seeing something that looks like two circular objects that literally it says a change in transmitter diameter from one of the online commentaries

1:30:58 until bolton and the very bottom is something that describes a scalar broadcast antenna that is actually the answer to instantaneous communication across the milky way enough said this is a big breakthrough thank you now we'll and uh now we'll go to closing statements thank you mr chairman members of the committee i want to say thank you for the i'm certainly a much wiser better public servant than i was before i worked through these doors to the my panel my colleagues you've been excellent many times we are so busy in congress we don't get to know each other unless we travel in what's called congressional delegations and do some work or work on the committee you know best your committee and your caucus and beyond that these things help so thank you very much and to the staff and all of you to the witnesses who have been with us all week outstanding i think it's america's loss that none of the press across this country felt the obligation to cover these

1:32:01 hearings the information that we've learned that american people should also have learned and those who stream god bless them probably did get some of it we'll make them better people as we confront the next hundred years the next thousand years because i really believe and i wasn't convinced before i came in but we did a little two-minute interview on the close of this and what i said in mind is i didn't know before and i still have a lot to learn but i'm willing to learn because it's a universal problem and i want my grandchildren and yours and our great-grandchildren to have a universe from which to operate so on behalf of this congresswoman as i go about my day and catch my pain and hope it lands smoothly doctors that i can come back and be with you again we've got a lot of work to do but i think you educate the people from the bottom up and not from top down it doesn't work like that we've done it in revolutions all over this world for hundreds of years this is a issue and if we're going to sustain us

1:33:02 ourselves as humans just a part of the universe we've got work to do to all of you on i'm looking and seeing some of you in the audience as you presented to us thank you for allowing me to be with you thank you very much yes thank thank you congresswoman kilpatrick uh dr bookman you've got just a minute of before the break first of all i'd like to say to the honorable representative from michigan uh you ma'am are a hero i was invo you're a hero just as much as any of these witnesses when we reached out to former members of congress the answer from many was well who else is going to be on that committee with me i'll serve but i won't serve with so-and-so or i want to know who else is you agreed to do this not knowing any of you stood up and said yes i'll do it and open the space for everyone else to be here before you leave i want to share that with you so you ma'am or our john glenn

1:34:06 first one up to orbit the earth thank that's all