Interview with The Honorable Paul Hellyer, Former Minister of National Defence & Deputy PM of Canada

0:02 today I have the honor of interviewing the Honorable Paul Hellyer who is a former Minister of Defense and Minister of Transportation of Canada and I want to introduce three of his important books including one that was published just last September of 2018 let me first share with you the cover of the first book we're going to discuss and that is hope restore oh and hope restored this is the blurb that appears in Amazon for this book this powerful book argues that the human species is at a tipping point when it is forced to choose between a new world order fascist government committed to rapid depopulation or a world of peace and justice Hellyer demonstrates that

1:03 god is alive well and everywhere and that humanity's choice is between the dark and the light to follow the light means giving up atomic weapons replacing the oil economy with clean zero-point energy developed by Americans in the 1960s having governments create 34% of all new money for public purposes rather than borrowing it from the 62 elite banking families a reconciliation of the two main branches of Islam and a just settlement of the israeli-palestinian dispute to bring peace to the Middle East finally it will be necessary for all countries races and faiths especially young people to forgive past atrocities and work together in common purpose to save the heritage they have in common mister mister Hellyer that certainly

2:05 sums up a lot of the issues that I'm very interested in and I'd love to have you just comment on what your objectives are and how the word about this was getting out and how we should get that out how you envision getting it out because government of the United States and other governments and cooperation with them have been keeping the truth people for about 70 years and just after the Roswell crashes we started that the day that the the announcement was made first of all that disk had been found was announced by the death of the commander of the local I guess at the time it was Army Air Corps base and then later his boss general

3:10 Baili had another press conference and had it totally different stories that no it wasn't a disc that was found it was a rollin that purposes and that was the foundation really of deceiving the people and in from my experience on just about every major issue that is arisen in the media in the intermediate years and keeping them in the dark on things that have are of profound importance to the United States and to the world to the point where you have a population which is really not the loop and have no idea what's going on and somehow have to be made aware of what has been happening he's last seventy years and do something about it before it's too late and I have been

4:11 proposing and then proposing you know in my latest book at a bipartisan committee of the Congress be set up and that they allow an amnesty from the National Security Act those are the people that are aware of these things that have been happening and talked about them without risking winding up in jail for the rest of their lives and so this is one of the primary hopes and aspirations I have is to get somebody in the Congress that sufficiently interested in bipartisanship and and forgetting that political parties are just political parties from they come and go but that people issues the future of the planet and the future of the governance of the planet and the future of our relationship with our extraterrestrial

5:12 neighbors these things that are people issues that you picked us all but these are the ones that we have to be concerning about not arguing over things that will be a normal consequence you know in a few months three years so that's that's what keeps me wouldn't say up at night because I sleep fairly well but those are the things that keep me yeah projects of one kind or another just started a new one too you know some five minute YouTube's on what I consider to be a probably became the most important issues facing humankind at the moment and they're unabashedly promoting books mine and other people's because you don't get enough information from the popular press have any idea of what's really happening in the world what has happened in the world the only way you get it free from reading books and I often state you know that this has

6:18 been this has been known for a long while and when the allan dulles allegedly was asked how he managed to sneak so many Nazis in the United States and said it's because Americans don't read books maybe so maybe is don't read books either I mean the stuffs there a lot of it that despite all the videos that have been spent for secrecy is available for anybody who wants to get a shout out well start reading books and so that's kind of you know operation one preliminary is to get a committee set up and get information out into the public domain and if they do that then you know and the controlled press can't resist reporting it and finally the truth will be known and if the truth is ever out it's only the truth will

7:19 make us free and that's the way we've got to go so I do agree with you very definitely that the government is keeping a lot from us we have in the United States we have more than 750,000 people who have a top secret clearance in the United States and so that's you know there are a lot of Secrets so one of the topics that you raised about the elite banking families I could give you an example from my own experience which is that I I dug and dug and dug until I found some secrets okay the secret is that after the crash of 2008 the financial community got paid double on all defaulted mortgages once by the US

8:20 government in the form of tarp and once by people who hadn't had failed mortgages because the economy collapsed because they were going over the what they had done what the financial community had done and we haven't yet stopped them is they had created a alternate currency so that so that what they were doing was not appearing on the statistics that the Federal Reserve uses for determining inflation and so what they did was they created an alternate currency in the form of mortgage-backed securities which were not in the in stats and then they inflated that currency very dramatically and and there's no check or balance on that so basically the real estate records that

9:22 are in every courthouse in the United States and I presume in Canada too are simply a facade they they don't mean anything because you can't go to that courthouse and actually find who who owns your mortgage it's that information is no longer kept there but right right but the problem is that before 2008 and I suspect again now the financial community is inflating that currency again and it inflated it before 2009 so this crazy time we have working up to September the 15th 2008 it was caused by the fact that the mortgage-backed securities are not actually backed by a real mortgage and

10:23 what they did was they cut and pasted her or they made a duplicate copy of a mortgage and said this mortgage is supporting this mortgage-backed security and over on another one they're saying oh this mortgage max this mortgage-backed security when in fact one of them is false entirely and so by doing that they created hair they created they created a false while they created inflation basically is what they did which is why when after 2008 when the Fed brought their interest rates down to zero nothing happened because the whole false economy that was off the books has to deflate had to deflate completely before anything new would happen and I'm not sure it ever did fully deflate because now they've

11:25 they've defined the dodd-frank bill and so what I think is happening is that they're inflating it again but again off the books of the and so another crash will come soon and I had a very interesting experience in 2008 on that day I happened to have been involved in high-level real estate deals and I was at a conference of people that fund huge buildings in Manhattan and they're everyplace and the conference was out at Half Moon Bay in California and on that day on September the 15 2008 which was the day that it was revealed that Lehman Brothers was bankrupt I was standing in a group of these men and one of them said to another it was stupid of

12:26 us to have financial crisis in the middle of a presidential election and that was incredibly telling because it basically said you know they expect crashes they know they're coming they they drive toward them and you know pardon benefit from them right and and so now I live in Annapolis Maryland next to a marina and now we've had bigger and bigger boats in our marina and none of them are being used but anyway I've said a lot so I let me shut up and hear from you sir about the things that I've said well I find something but I think of courage anyway it's a Ponzi scheme which

13:27 some people devised and sold the politicians probably a little handshaking in the process and so you have trillions of dollars which aren't creating trillions of dollars they're just bank deposits or mortgage holdings and it's all the fall system and they can crash it the people that control and whether they want it done that I think I don't know three times in the last hundred fifteen years or something like that right sessions are depressions and the unfairness I think is that the system we have aid gives the creators of money control they have more copper the body else in the world right this is one of the power points that we have to address and address any of my books right you know I actually let me bring up one of

14:28 your other books because I think it's relevant which is the money mafia so this is one of the reasons I was interested in talking to you because of the unfairness I see in the crash of 2008 and the fact that the Fenny financial community gotta got away with blaming the crash on single mothers of two in Memphis rather than himself so I'm personally very troubled by that generation earlier the crash of 29 30 the banks pieces or their disappea but nothing happens that's the problem

15:28 and nothing happens in the right direction because the Congress just before Christmas when Europe wasn't century ago gave away the people's right to create their own currency right and and of course and so they make it sound bad by saying it's fiat currency which was currency that Abraham Lincoln created among others to fund the civil war but you you're talking about the government creating 34 percent of new money for government programs and so I wonder if you'd talk about that for a minute because for many years we have given thin air there's nothing behind it

16:29 not even kidding it's not much anymore because it used to be and I should go through that when they think of England was first first incorporated Kingdom that's a war yeah which people could have knitted in two hundred thousand pounds or for capital and of all King at eight percent which is a pretty high interest rate for guaranteed home then to show his his pleasure with them he said you can print PRI Mt another a million two hundred thousand pounds and limit dear friends so in effect the bank was lending to the government and to others collecting interest from both the same time when in the early years of the 20th century in the u.s. federally incorporated banks had to have a gold reserve 25 percent name they could lend the same money when

17:31 I was young in Canada all the banks had to have cash reserve of eight percent met big have been the same money twelve and a half times welcomes Milton Friedman and his particular approach to things the banks wind up being able little in the same money twenty times have been many pieces more Oh anybody that can manufacture money out of thin air and then led to twenty different governments corporations or people collect interest from each one at the same time is going to become immensely rich sure that persistent and that's what's happened and about six years ago I think eighty-eight families on half well from the whole world and it went down a couple of years later to see I'm finally wound up in 2016 and sixty two families which you could put on a suburban street fifty percent of all of

18:34 the world from in the world I can't get my head about that I really it boggles my mind I start counting the big cities you know on the king Beijing Hong Kong coming across that system Los Angeles Vancouver in New York in Toronto and Manchester and I skipped now Mexico City you read and then across London on all this right around the whole world every second one equivalent his own lock stock and barrel by 62 people right people are starving in the world and some people don't have shirts on their backs some people don't have enough to education even I know all of these other things 62 families

19:35 there's an interesting defense connection with us too I should mention I had a Midshipmen who I sponsored who became a f-18 pilot so he was out on aircraft carriers and at one point he says well skip you know it's horrible with China because if we put all of our aircraft carriers outside or near China maybe said five it maybe said five aircraft carriers near China we could only put six hundred airplanes up in the air and they have 3,000 that they can put out against us and I said well don't worry about that because we are the Chinese two trillion dollars at that time we are the Chinese two trillion dollars and do you think we're going to pay that back if they start a war with us he didn't answer okay so we

20:40 understand that that's a big issue let's move on to we started to talk a little bit about dr. Jung and what I believe that God founded that young found the Living God where he lives and how he goes about doing the business of the Godhead but I wanted to hear what you say about because this says so I haven't marked in red here Hellyer demonstrates that God is alive well in every that humanities choice is between the what dark and the light and so I wonder if you would comment on that sure actually I have a very close relationship with the Creator God which has been developing over I guess the last 16 years or something like that and it's become so close that it's just like father-son you I asked questions of all

21:42 kind and get honest answers and some of them are pretty mundane and I'm almost embarrassed to ask them but I still do and I get answers and I know well then when the the first the forces and then public got into remote viewing I guess it was the name of the head of Farsight Institute - doctor I'm sure found out one time when he was moving into these things that he found something very big and he realized that it was God and he was afraid to go there but he managed to make a connection with Jesus who said go wrong and do it what you get and found out that God had

22:44 created the universe from his own material from his own and that it has evolved over hundreds of thousands of years and that and that we are all connected the whole cosmos is connected which is the reason that some of our extraterrestrial friends are so concerned about us putting off atomic because it doesn't just affect community it affects all of our planet and beyond and these things are are important to the whole scheme of things so you just have to stop doing it I finally got up my list well I first of all I said no card the Browns named Courtney problem says that you did this deliberately and

23:52 after a few weeks I got the courage to say well last time we were discussing is you or didn't you the answer was yes so with a big bang cosmos was created and all of the things that have happened and are happening again we're seeing them and and so all of the material metal matter all of the trees all of the rocks all of the water all of the mountains the hills the oceans all of the people apart and it was interesting because after I went public on this matter of extraterrestrial UFOs this was a book

24:53 thirteen years ago under Mitchell one of the Apollo astronauts was in father and he wanted to meet me so he arranged it for a little friend and we had an interesting dinner at at our place and started out by saying talk about the alleged crash at Roswell and I said come on it hurts not alleged his face went all red because he knew that wasn't this very next birds where when all these species do you think there are and I said I don't know somewhere between 2 and 12 and he said yes that's what I thought too and of course we were both very conservative but the interesting thing was when I was talking about this other thing we're just talking about I

25:55 remember my wife was quite direct and she said so he believed in God and he said no not if you named an old man so there are some with a long beard but he said I'm sorry the universe is what yeah and interestingly I just to mention Michio Kaku was a famous TV cosmologists and sight physicist made the comment that every atom in the universe is is attached to every other atom in the universe and of course physicists couldn't couldn't change that argument that's obviously true and so it's it's just very interesting to see how cosmology and physics are are converging

27:00 and then one of the things that fascinated me was that Carl Sagan and one of his students Neil deGrasse Tyson have been adamant that many things don't exist in the universe but then when they start to describe dark energy and dark matter they can't explain it without explaining it in terms that are very similar to psychological terms or mystical terms that's very fascinating fact I happen to have your other book here so let me just mention that because that's the one that has your Michels comment that's light at the end of the tunnel okay so let me share my screen here and so I'll just

28:01 scroll it past so people can read it from the from the interview here then at the end of this blurb is at your rituals common and it is Paul Hellyer story is an important contribution to the literature of modern Western civilization his experience in government is interest in Exopolitics and the issues of sustainability of civilization are significant areas of current discourse at the time that you did light at the end of the time while you were also thinking about climate consequences and the Copenhagen conference and so I wonder if you would speak to us about that for a moment but I'd like to come back to the progression of the three books first of all I had forgotten about

29:10 Paul could you sit a little closer to your microphone yeah yeah thank you I had forgotten about his coat but I had put it in my diary and so when I looked I found it in support of the other things I had said the when I wrote light at the end of the tunnel a survival plan for the human species I thought that was all it was ever going to have to say because governor white him - the extra-terrestrial field and so on and there's a good line in it I said I didn't know how much I didn't know because I didn't know how much there was to know that's as true today as it was when I wrote it these are nine years ago because it's just like a scroll opening from both

30:13 infinity things that there are - no I don't know anybody knows everything and I don't know I would note than anybody knows anything except the Creator God who created and though I that sort of got me in the out and I thought that was fine and bring the next four years I found out so much more information particularly other dogs and cooperation between horses species and so on listen to Phil Schneider talking about some of the things that he had found passed on I said I'm gonna have to write another book like that that's when I wrote the money mafia which is gets probably something of a classic but Oprah dealing what happened and how

31:15 British things evolved after well then that was for sure the last one then I got these other recent revelations and swimming creation and so on and it wasn't really enough material for another book well I thought about it and I said well I don't want to put on a pamphlet I have a colleague on the other side of the house for me at the time but we're good friends and he said man and where are you going to write your memoirs and they kept putting him off and then finally it occurred to me well I don't know like very rebooted memoirs because before would take a thousand pages nobody did and so I finally said well what I'll do is I'll write my memoirs intact this information about

32:18 the cosmos eliminations which is what I did and that was over stored in from and the reason that was written I haven't done though it was it was an important part in the progression fertility but it was it was never intended until very late on because the information that's most important about it was not something that was in my cabin area until very recently though it has an important role of a playbook because it it makes this suggestion I was talking about trying to get out the getting the eye lateral approach to these very serious issues hasn't been possible so far though I think it can

33:22 make a contribution in that respect because as far as global warming is concerned and particularly acutely aware of it at the moment because three or four Canadian provinces are flooding and writers have told us dr. James Hansen in particular it is it is going to get worse the typhoons are going to get worse the Normans are going to get worse arrangement it harder when it does and it's been - I am saying that as I'm concerned our world is on fire I think they weekly more times I actually had a picture of the earth burning a few weeks ago if we continue with the production of coal and oil I

34:30 don't know how we continue in that and it's kind of sometimes one of us of our ones could be because it's no respecter of persons anywhere anytime you never know what happens which which reminds me of something I suppose you might be well aware of this but for consciousness purposes the the type of problem that we're talking about about how we make and use energy is very significant because and I'll give you an example and it's we're far more than a few thousand

35:31 can die in the Hamas the Chinese have built seventeen dams the dam up the Ganges River and if they were to do the wrong thing with those dams it would affect 250 million people in India and and so we could we could easily envision that and I know that Bangladesh which has a large portion of the mouth of the Ganges is halfway under water when they have a big storm like the one they had a couple of weeks ago already and I've been there when there's been a storm and you literally have water up to your necks and so you talk about the fascist

36:32 governments deep populating the world that's a perfect example of where that can be acting happen and I had a direct experience in Bangladesh once where a friend of mine took me out in a little motorboat and we came upon one of these furries that very often capsized in Bangladesh and he just drove the motor boat around this furry and it was so fall the ferry was so full that the gunnel was literally only a couple of inches over the world over the water and I could watch the people on the deck of this ferry up at the high levels and they were watching our motor boats that are there on one side of the boat and then they're on the other side of the ferry watching us as we went around the the ferry and I said oh my god please get us I don't want to be responsible for a

37:34 couple of hundred people dying in a very capsized but that that's the way they do it all the time right so anyway yeah I'm sorry don't take so many risks I think nuclear weapons is an interesting topic because what people don't realize but science sciences realized that only the detonation of a very small number of nuclear weapons would kill everything on earth I think I heard the number was 23 but someone corrected me that there's a the number is more like a hundred but of course we have ten thousands of nuclear weapons in the arsenal what could possibly go wrong right but fortunately normally in government we have people that have

38:35 developed up and developed and more and more consciousness who control these things but right now we have a very dangerous situation with a president who before he took office was saying well why don't we just use nuclear weapons on these things and of course he had no experience with national defense he actually avoided service so he had no experience and so obviously he wasn't connected with these facts I'm sure now people in his government I have corrected his information or his level of consciousness but we're entirely dependent upon people in Russia and the United States and China and other nuclear countries keeping their cool and and being mature enough and with enough consciousness to understand what the

39:37 issues are about using these weapons I mean you know you find out I have but now I wish I didn't happen I wish I didn't have to know about this so how we get that down that's a problem because you know nobody is gonna go out and unilaterally say okay I'm gonna give up my nuclear weapons nobody would do that but some how we need to slowly step down the risk that's presented there you know and if we don't there's going to be huge tragedy there some somewhere sometime Hollis takes is one hot-tempered person and rumor recently that the thinking of giving heaven forbid because that's the

40:42 fastest road to of your Armageddon spread from there on there are these risks that we just have to try and avoid by one means or another that you suggest we want some common sense and internationally and start getting rid of some of the risk and spending our efforts and energies on global warming in this thing immediately and I have been promoting a five-year program I remember well in World War two they converted all of the automotive plants and the refrigerator plants and the washing machines you know it worked in

41:42 the circumstance I have to do is just the opposite we have to take all of those armaments plants and convert them into zero point energy labs a manufacturing zero point energy engines but an every car truck doctor airplane and house in the world as fast as we can do her great if we did we did that we'd save millions of lives and trillions of dollars less damage but there doesn't seem to be the will to face the fact that our office is on fire I wonder if huge come on a fume up for a few moments here on this phrase that one of the things that's needed is reconciliation of the two main branches of Islam and I wonder if you give me a

42:46 little bit more of an idea of what you have in mind there unless people talk prices break bread together right that's the woody to solve problems because you can't kill somebody and over deep well as you find out they're just human like yourself and the kids are as human as your killers and and this is bad that we have this rift between the citizen the she is because look at what's been happening in Yemen what's been happening in Syria and it's it's criminal the resources you know the results of the church I attend a couple of families over my wife and I there was a border refugee from from Iraq was having as

43:49 I've taken because he's a filmmaker and he's made a film a little bit critical of the game there and and so on but the world is just a big powder powder cake and so I think it probably should be under the auspices of the but you have to get those main branches together because they have the same holy book their holy book says you cannot kill unless it's dust that means you can't don't blow yourself up kill a lot of innocent people anymore than you can use it don't go in and try and knock off one person and we have to all the holy books they the same thing and the one thing in common of all the major religions that's yeah that's the problem and that's why we

44:51 have to get a better control of our psyches and understand our psyches so one of the things that you said here in our if that's in this blurb of hope restored which i think is really important I'll put it back up on the screen for a moment is finally it will be necessary for all countries races and faiths especially young people to forgive past atrocities and work together in common purpose to save the heritage that we have in common and do you want to comment on that I have some observations but I don't want to I don't want to steal your thunder the problem is not a stop with tit for tat the eye for an eye especially the take your whole body for sorry the atrocities that

46:01 we have been guilty over our ancestors have been guilty on of in the past a past and we've got to stop saying we're going to get even because you'll never get even there's no even right there's no way even and create a new cycle it just keeps going on we're still fighting battles that are 500 years old or a thousand years old this is not what we have to do we have to say okay I'm up and wipe the the like clean take off each other because it's our planet

47:11 because justice able to walk humbly with the Lord to pursue a world of justice right what yeah go ahead well that's that's really what we have to set as a goal and one of the things that dr. young did throughout his 60 years of writing was that he found that he found he showed the similarities in between all the religions not only Christianity and Islam and Judaism which

48:11 are all are Abrahamic religions but all religions dr. Edward Redinger made the observation that he really penetrated to the source of all religions and if if we think of it that way and think of the fact that they all fundamentally do the same thing he said that they all are evolutionary methods of psychotherapy that came along before anybody had thought about psychology or psychiatry and of course he was a psychiatrist but the idea would be instead of finding the differences between our religions why don't we turn around and find figure out how they're the same and how we're all trying to get to the same point which is what dr. Young's point was I pick a permanent extent to which the goals are the same

49:12 exactly I give the tongue-in-cheek comment you know the the Muslims pray five times a day what could be wrong with that let's all do that because that can't hurt dinner okay so so anyway the point I wanted to make about this comment though was the idea of forgiveness and are you're familiar with the work of Elias Canetti who was a Nobel Prize winner in literature okay well Elias Canetti wrote a book called crowds and power and that book is the most frightening book I ever read but one of the things he or he observed about the way we handled the post-war period after World War one and the post-war period after World War two is that after World War one through the

50:13 Treaty of Paris the Allies wanted to punish the Germans and therefore and they did punish the Germans they put them into a terrible inflationary spiral and a horrible depression long before the Great Depression actually began and that caused huge resentment among the German populace and and Hitler actually had a phrase which he said the dick taught of Versailles I and he would use that in his speeches as just a knife to go into the heart of the psyche of all Germans the dick taught of Versailles the diktat of Versailles as being unfair and inappropriate but after World War two instead we did the Marshall Plan where we rebuilt both Germany and Japan and the result is that

51:14 they became among our strongest allies and among the strongest countries in the world and they really both achieved much of what they had sought to achieve by warfare before and I wonder if you have any comment about that no I think the cooperation is the way to go certainly reconciliation forgiveness they're the only way to go and then I say what is it we want to accomplish we want to have a world where all our little children have sure down their back and education so they can find out what the potential is or do we want to have over 62 people have half the wealth and know when they're starving and emaciated and getting anywhere because

52:17 don't educate potentials and it's read a but what I heard the first is what I call building the kingdom of God on earth that's the object as far as I'm concerned was to build the kingdom of God on earth and I'd do it his way because we they've been a lot of us have been sort of going the way of a searing Sun this for quite a while now we call him by various names but the Bible one hurt was the evil one and we've been taking our cues from from him and living according to the things he's been putting in our heads already instead of nice things that could be there so we just have to that's what I call MODOK and we just have to say you know we're going to shut that that we've linked off and pray about it and even pray for the people that are going that

53:17 way because a lot of them thought about it and then turn the other direction and try and listen to the the wavelengths that are late your life and move in that direction and if so our species will survive even if that's something of a rocky ride for decades until we get this right there's race there's an interesting dichotomy between Freudian psychology and Jungian psychology Freud wanted to through the talking cure go back and get all your resentment up so he wanted to spend all this therapeutic time of the talking cure talking about what happened to you Jung said let's plant a flag where we are now each and every one of us each of us is the center

54:19 of our universe and let's be conscious of what's happened in the past that bad things have happened bad things have happened but our life no matter how old we are is a life that begins today right now and the question is what will we do today to make our life better and make our relationships better and and what should we avoid doing because as Jesus said we have to test the spirits and that was in first John 4:1 where he he said that we have to test the spirits because good ideas and bad ideas come up and and if we don't reconcile then we're going to get the opposite of reconciliation that's basically what the lesson of the

55:21 post-world War one and post-world War story is I think absolutely true that we have to change our ways and forgive you never forget the fastest history and we start from today usually maybe a mystery but today is a blessing I'm let's use it right and dr. Jung pointed out the neurosis is where one part of us wants to do one thing in one part wants to do the other thing and we have that neurosis in the United States right now between our red states and our blue states and his point was that you can't you can never cure a neurosis okay you can't never happens and so what you need to do is draw a circle around it and

56:24 then push it off in another part of her psyche and then figure out what you're going to do to move on and to mature out of it basically as what he's saying which is another way of saying to reach a new level of consciousness where we can as a species mature out of our various neuroses it's been really interesting speaking with you sir I don't know I are there other things that you would like to talk about are they covered water for this morning thank you thank you sir and thank you miles very much for organizing this interview I appreciate it very much mr. halyard thank you so much for do this it's a true honor and I will be editing this within the next few days and put it online and when I do I'll let you know what the link is so that you

57:24 can view it so thank you again miles I've mr. Hollyer so nice to be able to eavesdrop in on this and what I would like to encourage the two of you to be to jointly publish this transcribe this conversation as well have it in the video form do you think that would be possible I think you could do it miles I I think mr. hell your night okay maybe I'm not very good you're welcome to do it and we'll find a way to publish it I do well work on that I have a website where we can publish so please do you might want to wait until you get the edited version very good of the interview yeah and then include your autobiographies right so I mr. Hellyer is there anything that we've said in this interview that you would prefer to have edited out I don't think so I don't

58:33 have secrets and I have only one line I try to stick to the same lie sometimes I change it when I get more knowledge I guess serve him - sure because I'm I don't think they're the best I can do lives the kind of lifespan talk about it that I think is the one I think that's terrific scent of milk anyway miles if you're still there the reason I believe in miracles and the only reason I got out of bed in the morning it's because I've seen them happen my own life I know they exist and I know that the dimensions can walk through doors muttering to all of the things that people thought were either wrong or magic and someday we'll be able to build

59:35 into her right doctor dr. Jung had a amusing story it was a rabbinical story where a student asks the rabbi why don't men see God anymore as they did in ancient times and the rabbi responds that were too inflated and my god comes in under the door or or through the electrons of the of YouTube in the Internet all right sir thank you so much for joining us today I enjoyed it very much bye-bye