Video · 27 July 2009

SSE Talks - Former Deputy Prime Minister on UFOs 1/3

Society for Scientific Exploration · 27 July 2009 · 10 min · Watch the original

Key moments

  1. 3:05 Paul Hellyer: Hellyer to the Society for Scientific Exploration: UFOs “are as real as the airplanes flying over your head.”

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0:01 thank you very much Courtney I was a different kind of minister actually generous introductions like that remind me of something General Eisenhower said that's like chewing gum you can taste it for a minute or two but for heaven's sake don't swallow it more actually like this small boy who fell headfirst into a barrel of molasses and when they pulled them out he licked some of the molasses from his face and said Lord make my tongue adequate to this occasion hmm well actually I have the advantage that Courtney told me what I should say today and what I shouldn't say and that's a big help but he also said that it towards the end of my speech I could say what I wanted to say hmm so I'm going to take him up on that invitation when I get towards the back side of it a bit of a throat problem so I hope I'll be able to get around that I'd like to start with a story that I

1:03 find kind of interesting and you might which is about perspective Sherlock Holmes and dr. Watson went on a camping trip after a good meal and a bottle of wine they lay down for the night and went to sleep some hours later Holmes awoke and nudged his faithful friend Watson look up in the sky and tell me what you see Watson replied I see millions and millions of stars what does that tell you asked Holmes Watson pondered for a minute and replied astronomically it tells me that there are millions of galaxies and potentially billions of astrologically I observed that Saturn is Anil hora logically I did use at the time is approximately a quarter past

2:04 three theologically I can see that God is all-powerful and that we are small and insignificant Meteor logically I suspect that we will have a clear and sunny day tomorrow what does it tell you Holmes Holmes was silent for a minute then spoke Watson you idiot somebody has stolen our tent so when you're talking about these things you can have quite different perceptions depending on your worldview well as a result of the notoriety gained by the dubious distinction of being the first person of cabinet rank and the g8 group of countries to speak out and say that

3:05 UFOs are real no qualifications they are as real as the airplanes flying over your head I was able to meet some very interesting people that I probably wouldn't well I certainly wouldn't have met otherwise one was that guriccho Apollo astronaut he was coming to Toronto to make a speech so he let it be known that he would be interested in meeting me and so my wife was with me here today was gallant enough to say let's invite him for dinner so we did and he came with his escort and we had three marvelous hours discussing his career his career as an astronaut his epiphany and his deep deep concern now for the future of our planet I had the honor of sharing a platform with him at

4:06 a Knicks conference in Washington in April of this year and the introduction to his talk was quite intriguing he asked us to take our minds back a hundred years to the time when the Wright brothers were trying to get an airplane off the ground carrying a man and then planes were developed larger and larger we got to the Douglas dc-3 which was the queen of the skies and sort of the ultimate in air travel and then faster and bigger planes turboprops jet planes supersonic planes and finally putting people on the moon all in the space of less than one century so have you ever thought ahead because this is only the beginning of you ever thought what it will be like a hundred years from now or even a thousand years from now assuming of course that in the

5:11 meantime we don't make the planet uninhabitable which is our current flight path reading Colonel Courcelles book was a real eye-opener for me ahead of course received reports of UFO sightings when I was Minister of National Defense and like most people in that position about 80 percent were natural phenomena and 15 or 20 percent were not and just had written beside them unexplained but carsales book was an eye-opener and when it was confirmed by a retired United States Air Force general of my acquaintance as being every word is true

6:14 quote-unquote and more and then spending some time with him discussing both some of the basics and the end more I decided that I had to say something about it in government I was just too busy I was responsible as some of you may know for unifying the Royal Canadian Navy the Royal Canadian Air Force and the Canadian Army into a single armed force for Canada and if you don't think that's a tough tense job I recommend you try and get the job the Secretary of Defense in Washington and try unifying the US Army Navy and Air Force and I wish you luck but by the time I got out of that job I was as Courtney said neither

7:19 convinced I neither believed nor disbelieved I just didn't know and I was far too busy to to worry about it but then after I read Corsos book that my general friend confirmed it he confirmed a lot of things that are now widely known and I'd like to read some of them a UFO did crash at Roswell New Mexico on or about July the 4th 1947 there were humanoid creatures aboard when it crashed of course it was not at the crash scene at the time and did not personally see the survivor that was carried into the Army Air Force infirmary that he writes about in his book he did later however see one of the

8:28 cadavers being transported presumably for autopsy the Colonel's personal involvement really began more than a decade later when he was posted to the Pentagon and his boss the leftenant General Arthur Trudeau gave him the foreign technology desk and turned over the top-secret Roswell files and a file of wreckage a cabinet of wreckage that which had been collected from the crash site in New Mexico and Trudeau asked him to make a list of those areas where he thought something might be developed which would be of use to the United States Army so he did and the list as it

9:29 developed included the following image intensifiers which ultimately became night vision I had the privilege of attending one of the first demonstrations although I didn't know at the time where the technology had come from fiber optics which have revolutionized telecommunications worldwide super tenacity fibers

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