Hal Puthoff Presentation 06/08/2018

0:00 I'm gonna go along at a rapid clip I've got a lot of information here so here we the SSE is no stranger to the subject of UFOs unidentified aerial phenomena just a new acronym for UFOs back a couple of decades ago Peter Sturrock one of our founding members of ss he arranged with Rockefeller to hold a week-long workshop at the Rockefeller residence where we brought in the best of the UFO researchers and then a panel of independent experts and had a week-long discussion of physical evidence related to UFO objects of which there there's a significant amount of data and Laurance Rockefeller has hosted the whole thing it was a wonderful meeting eventually

1:01 after publishing in the SSE journal Peter Sturrock put together a book the UFO enigma and it is still one of the best books you can find out there to take a look at what are the physical aspects of UFOs that researchers have uncovered however of course the government also is no stranger to the UFO phenomena anyone who follows a field would be familiar with project sine grudge and Blue Book but in 1969 the Condon committee shut it all down and said really we don't need to be involved in this area anymore we're not learning anything we're not getting anywhere it's not clear that this is a significant area and so for the average person on the street that's when it all kind of ended at least serious government interest in fact that's not true the very memo that shut down blue book

2:04 written by general bohlander had as part of its language reports of UFOs which could affect national security would continue to be handled through the standard air force procedures designed for this purpose nonetheless as far as the public was concerned that was it I mean the Air Force Public Affairs Office put out circulars all the time in response to questions saying no while we gave this up in 1969 what in fact did occur was that there were programs going on behind the scenes anyway as required by the Belinda mineral now most people didn't know about these programs they weren't advertised they weren't responded to fo a requests usually went dry but that all changed last December when the New York Times published a front-page story on how there was this program investigating

3:06 this area advanced aerospace threat identification program it was deeply buried but New York Times had good sources and they came up with information about the program and so there's been a lot of publicity about it since the New York Times broke the story Washington Post CNN Fox News it's been picked up all over the place and one of the reasons why it's attracted attention at this point are the quality of the sources going public X Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is the one who initiated the program top rate at f-18 pilots who encountered advanced aerospace vehicles at close range were permitted to come forward and tell their stories which up till now they hadn't because they didn't want to lose their flight status by reporting what they had found at least publicly a number of significant Department of Defense and

4:06 intelligence community officials have come forward to talk about the reality of this phenomenon and the fact that there were programs going on the program was nicknamed advanced aerospace threat identification program a tip people have trying to get documents out of the Pentagon by saying they want all documents on a tip and they have a hard time because that wasn't actually the name of the program that top name there is the actual name of the program but a tip was with the nickname that it went by it began in June of 2007 Defense Intelligence Agency was concerned about the fact that obvious observation had shown that advanced aerospace vehicles crafts are drones of unknown origin we're flying all over the United States over waters in fact globally is a case and so a congressional budget was

5:08 approved to address the issue behind the scenes senator majority Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid from Nevada was the one who was the initiator of the program joined by Senator Inouye and Senator Stevens these are the people who generally approved programs that were in the black under high security behind the scenes and so they set up this program Senator Reid has not walked this back since all the news came out he's been very forthright and given a number of interviews this particular statement sort of captures it all we don't know the answers but we have plenty of evidence to support the questions this is about science and national security if America doesn't take a lead answering these questions others will well there's a two-fold nature of the threat first of all you've got these advanced aerospace vehicles flying around that we don't

6:09 know where they come from who's driving them what the intent is possibly offworld even but the future threat was actually as far as a department fence went and the intelligence community one of the greater concerns what happens in potential adversaries achieve significant breakthroughs by getting hold of advanced technology either based on their study of the Phenom or from sensor data or crash retrieve materials then that could provide a problem for the United States and the sense of threat and there's reason to be concerned about that this is a document in the program we dug up out of the Soviet Union it's a very thick document it shows that the Soviet Union had a massive program also trying to get to the root of all of this and in this document a number of research institutes and military institutes are listed and

7:12 of course they had the same concerns we did is their threat from the phenomena or might the Americans make headway before us and that be a threat just to give you an idea of what's being observed which many of people seen because it's been in the news a lot lately back in November of 2004 a Nimitz carrier group was out on patrol off of San Diego and in several occasions an advanced aerospace vehicle would descend rapidly from 60,000 feet to 50 feet in seconds and then hover and then take off like a bullet when it first happened and happened over a number of weeks actually two f-18 I'll talk about two f-18 pilots were vectored unto the site where this they were being observed by the radars

8:13 to investigate and what they saw was what they called a tic tac craft solid white smooth no edges about forty six feet in length uniformly colored known as cells pylons or wings the f-18s could not obtain LOC with their radars because they were stealthy but forward-looking infrared radar could pick them up to some degree based on their heat signatures and the advanced service vehicle appeared to demonstrate advanced acceleration aerodynamic and propulsion capability beyond anything that that we knew existed on the planet I'm going to play Fleur video that many of you may have seen i've got sound with the video

9:14 do you have my car well going against the window - playing house os oh they do that's not honest what is it well if they're so it's rotated I'm gonna play one more time there's a hole clean I welcome and say my god well going against the window into high school playing house OS oh they do

10:25 that's not snow is it it's rotated now you might ask yourself alike what can you prove from from a videotape I mean you can see videotapes all over the internet and so on but this was data fusion their gun camera tapes there are these video tapes for the pilots voice recordings data link recordings from ages and many other military platforms expert witnesses so in fact the data density and this is what's changed the field a lot our detection capability has gotten so advanced that we're losing our inability to see exactly what's going on the FLIR displays were recorded there are detailed debriefs of the pilots in that original New York Times article you can see a page long debrief of day favor

11:27 key assessments the advanced aerospace vehicle a vehicle has no known air vehicle in the inventory of the US or foreign nation as far as we can tell low observable characteristics are stealthy the exhibit advanced aerodynamic performance that we can't imagine how they do it and recognize that these are infrared tapes from the pilots so if there was some kind of hot propulsion gases coming out the back you would have seen it they had the advanced capability to remain stationary and then take off like a shot Dave favore says was like somebody suddenly shot a bullet so how do we respond to this the Defense Intelligence Agency put out a broad area announcement in fact it was unclassified they wanted to evaluate 12 potential threat areas with regard to these advanced aerospace vehicles there's a list of them exactly

12:29 what you would think you'd want to know live propulsion signature reduction in human effects and so on you know it turned out that anyone any Aerospace Corporation could could apply it could send in a proposal DIA chose Bigelow Aerospace as a contractor to address a threat now there's been buzz on the internet about okay well Senator Reid came from Nevada and Bigelow Aerospace is in Nevada so wasn't is just some sweetheart deal in fact that's not the case it was a broad area announcement anybody could go for it Bigelow was actually a good choice he had spent a lot of his own money because he was interested in this area up to this point investigating the the phenomena and he had the best proposal and so he was tasked and so he set up a special organization called Bigelow Aerospace advanced Space Studies so we we call it bass to do all the things you'd expect the program like this to do

13:30 well bass connected contacted me at Arctic international to collaborate as a subcontractor and I agreed to do that okay what did i address as a subcontractor well one of the critical issues is that there's so much high-level security and compartmentalization in this subject area and there's a lot of it is difficult for contractors to obtain expert opinions on advanced technologies because they would expose why they were interested so I acted as a surrogate I was contracted to Commission mostly unclassified white papers from experts around the globe where their particular aerospace related subject areas would be in 2050 as like a general survey of aerospace futures I decide this would be the best way to get the best knowledge we had across many technologies without actually exposing why we wanted to know

14:31 so I let out 38 contracts over a two-year period I'll show you what the studies were on you can read them they're positron and aerospace propulsion IEC fusion as a compact energy source work drive work energy extra dimensions metallic glasses for aerospace use really cutting-edge kinds of things here's some more of the papers that I commissioned negative mass propulsion antigravity for aerospace applications and so on programmable matter invisibility cloak II these are just the kind of things that we needed to have maximum technical input from the best people around the globe and so that that's what we did that's what I did now we could--we we told these people they could publish their reports and in physics journals and engineering journals but of course

15:32 the contractor didn't want to wait for that so the Defense Intelligence Agency bundled up these 38 papers and put them out as Defense Intelligence reference documents posted on a Jay Wix server that anyone in the government or contractors could get access to by and large they have nothing released and to the public yet a couple of leaked out so let me give you an example of well how does this stuff help people who are chasing these really difficult problems I'm choosing one here men and materials for aerospace use I'd love to talk about really fancy materials but they're classified however there's a lot of materials that have been picked up or provided even in the public domain I'm going to give an example because it shows exactly what this structure is for how to deal with this this is an open

16:33 source sample it was sent anonymously to talk show host art Bell the fellow claimed to be in the military he said that this sample was picked up in the crash retrieval and so he sent it by email so what does that mean chain-of-custody non-existent provenance questionable it could be a hoax it could be some slag off of some foundry floor or whatever however it was an unusual sample so we decided to take a look at it it was a multi-layered bismuth and magnesium sample bismuth layers less than a human hair magnesium samples about ten times the size of human hair supposedly picked up in the crash retrieval of an advanced aerospace vehicle looks like it's been in the the white lines are the business the

17:34 darker areas are the magnesium separations so the question was what about this material so naturally we looked in all of the National Labs we talked to metallurgist we've combed the entire structure of published papers no where could we find any evidence that anybody ever made one of these secondly some attempts were made to try to reproduce this material but they couldn't get the bismuth and magnesium layers to bond thirdly when we talked to people who in the materials field who should know they said we don't know why anybody would want to make anything like this it's not obvious that it has any function well years later decades later actually finally our own science moves along we move into an area called metamaterials and it turns out that exactly this combination of materials at

18:37 exactly those dimensions turn out to be an excellent microscopic waveguide for very high frequency electromagnetic radiation terahertz frequencies so the wavelength is 60 microns which is pretty small size but it turns out that because of the metamaterial aspect of this material those bismuth layers that act as wave guides can be one twentieth the size of the wavelength and usually when you make a waveguide just got be about the size of the wavelength so in fact this turned out to be a material that would propagate sub-wavelength we've got effects why somebody wants to do that we still don't know the answer to that but anyway it was amazing that we've gone through this and this is the kind of structure we go through a lot you get a material sample than usual characteristics to be evaluated the

19:39 method of manufacture difficult to assess or reproduce the purpose of the function is not readily apparent as with our sample here and then as our own technical knowledge moves forward we finally see a possible purpose of function comes to light that sequence is repeated over and over in this particular area I'll pick a second one here for the engineers of physicists in the crowd probably be more interesting spacetime metric engineering this happened to be the paper that I myself provided one of the questions is can the reported anomalous observables of these advanced aerospace vehicles be accounted for in the basis of known physics I mean you hear people describing craft taking right angle turns at high speeds and other things with the hovering and rapid acceleration and so on as if the craft

20:42 didn't have any inertial mass well it turns out although general relativity outside general relativity is usually used in Astrophysical applications and gravity studies and so on you can look at it from an engineering standpoint so if you take an engineering approach to general relativity what I just showed can be can be understood if you could change the space-time metric the way general relativity I'm talking about text book not some fanciful physics you could even get faster than light travel Alcubierre warp drive warp drive as and as in Star Trek again you might think that's a fanciful kind of thing but that paper was published in one of the top general relativity journals classical corner grab the work drive hyper fast travel within general relativity so if you engineer space-time metric you can begin to line up observables with physics that we know and love even if we can't reduce it what

21:45 about the velocity of light constraint people are always saying that you know how could you have a wormhole you let you go from one side of the universe to the other aren't you beating the speed of light well what does the physicist and engineer mean but speed of light he means this little equation here with speed of light is given by 1 over the square root of the permittivity times the permeability of the vacuum so the point is if you re-engineer those vacuum parameters then you can make the effective speed of light higher in the engineered region and so those are the solution and general relativity that are called wormholes and again it's not science fiction this is just right off the shelf standard textbook general relativity applications so what that means is a reduced in a time interstellar travel it's not as skeptics would say you can't get from there to advanced ET civilizations now or

22:45 ourselves in the future and not fundamentally constrained by physical principles the exotic physics for such can be addressed in engineering terms or metric engineering as it were does this have any help again by the way this paper also was published as one of the Defense Intelligence reference documents and since we are permitted to publish in the open literature I published that paper in a British interplanetary science journal an engineering journal so if you're interested in looking at the details you can get learn as much as you want to know about metric and that helped us understand some of the aspects I mean you may have heard the phrase dense stars you get redshift well it turns out in this engineered technology you get so-called blue shift that is frequencies are up shifted to higher frequencies so for

23:47 example in this room so for example in this room most of the radiation coming off our bodies off the walls and so on is in fact in the infrared and what we see things in the visible range but what happens if you get into a volume of space where the vacuum has been engineered and the way I've been discussing it turns out to get a blue shift so in fact the infrared you don't ordinarily see can get blue shifted up into the visible so it's not surprising that all these crap should be so luminous now the downside from all of this is the fact that visible light which doesn't have any particularly harmful effects gets blue shifted up into the ultraviolet so we get too close to Atlantic craft you might get a sunburn or off into the soft x-ray region so the chance of radiation

24:47 poisoning so if you run across one of these sitting on the ground I would recommend you don't and it's powered up I'd recommend you don't rush up and well that helped us to understand we as part of this program we looked at some cases that were really good from Brazil 77 78 it was like Close Encounters of the Third Kind thousand pages of documents all done by the Brazilian Air Force investigative team five hundred photographs 15 hours of motion film a lot of medical injuries I know you probably can't read that from here but it's just a list of the different kinds of medical injuries that occurred when people encountered these crafts at close range and it has some overlap with cases that we've investigated during the injuries occurring well despite the progress in the ATM program let's face

25:48 it topic is inherently anomalous right therefore despite the reality of the observations and all the people that we interact with in the intelligence community and the Pentagon agree the data is there it's it's real nonetheless a topic doesn't fit smoothly into known profiles of government programs for sure and by virtual natural security implications it's high compartmentalization of topic therefore a slow pace of cumulative progress and integration we call them stovepipes you have a lot of people with lots of detailed information about some particular aspect but they don't talk to each other even if sitting at the next desk and let's face it advocacy of the issue and government circles is not viewed as a career enhancing in part because despite the weirdness of the

26:49 subject if you don't make a lot of progress you know it doesn't look good on your resume that you're moving up the line so because of that there's a forward story many of us involved in the program decided that there should be an outreach program in the public sector so this is the forward story the goal was established a broad base high quality scientific community of interest in the public sector concerning these unidentified aerial phenomena and other related leading-edge topics and so we got together and formed a company called to the stars Academy of Arts and Science it was co-founded by entrepreneur Tom DeLonge I'll talk about him in a minute senior intelligence officers from the department defense and CIA and distinguished research scientists we all banded together to form this Academy

27:53 it was set up as a public benefit corporation so the public can invest and therefore it's owned by the public so this is something new whatever comes out of any of the research or any of the release of information is actually going to be owned by the public it's not going to disappear in no black Hall very transparent structure if you go to the website you can see everything from the financial structure to the activities and we do have a web-based community of interest where things get posted for example those this f-18 flare tape I show we now have three of them up there probably more to come all right well who was the principals of this organization Tom DeLonge blink-182 rock star frankly I'd never heard of buddy 182 but my son told me oh yeah we know about

28:53 blink 182 but anyway in addition to being the rock star that he is he's also director and producer puts out books of music and film and so on and he's had a lifelong interest in the UFO area and so he started talking with various people and he was kind of the I guess you'd say the action-oriented person who said why don't we set up something why don't we make this more available to the public and he got to a number of us and so we all began to band together lou Elizondo who was in fact the Department of Defense's of the Pentagon's eighth tip program director resigned from the Pentagon and joined us Chris Mellon 20-year career deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence minority staff director of the cinah slike committee intelligence he joined us we got Jim simav an 25 year career in

29:56 CIA's director of operation he was the real James Bond kind of guy Steve justice just retired as program director for the billion-dollar programs at Lockheed Martin skunk works he joined us and then I agreed to be on the board so I joined them in addition to my science and engineering background I've had a lot of activity and in classified areas so I was it was a natural fit for me interacting with all these people we also put together a policy and scientific advisory panel of the best people we could find Chris Mellon agreed to be the chair dr. Cole Kelleher he was actually the deputy administrator at Bigelow Aerospace to run the eighth tip program out of the Pentagon dr. Gary

30:58 Nolan top genese genetics professor at Stanford University dr. Cohn 30-year career with CIA counter biological weapons program dr. Rapp professor military and emergency medicine uniformed services University dr. Gilpin consultant and academic biomedical research and research law so we put together a team as panelists to keep us on the straight and narrow of really top people who have wonderful backgrounds and really want to see scientific work be done in this area so the goals for the to the stars Academy are promote the concept at such forefront topics as UFO SETI consciousness studies even telepathy and psychokinesis should not be considered taboo for serious scientific consideration so I mean it's a perfect match to the SSE because that's our goal in the SSE as well and

32:02 of course Big Ideas that generate funding to underwrite significant research in these areas develop user friendly databases so information that is generated can be accessed by anyone provide positive support for government aerospace industry and academic efforts to accomplish all of the above so we want to act as the glue in the public sector and create entertainment properties books and documentaries and so on so that whatever is learned can be generated that can be delivered out to the public if the structure of the organization has a science structure aerospace structure and an entertainment division what are the activities of this organization to

33:02 date actually we were responsible for legitimizing the topic in the mainstream press that story that came out in the New York Times and so on which then got picked up by Washington Post CNN Fox News was based on agreed upon interviews with those of us that I've just gone through a list of and given the quality of the sources coming out from the shadows for example X Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid top f-18 pilots a significant department defense and intelligence community officials the bar has been raised on legitimization of this topic in the public arena we think that's an accomplished goal to date and via the community of interest postings on the website we now have three high quality of f-18 videotapes of unidentified aerial phenomena encounters

34:03 they've been previously languishing in the Pentagon servers nobody doing that much with them these are still being generated one of the tapes is from 2016 off the east coast of the United States I mean there are a lot more tapes hopefully we'll get a lot more of them posted we only we don't just produce positive results or what people would think would be support results one of our scientists science advisors as Gary Nolan from from Stanford University whose agenda genex expert and there had been claims that some small humanoid skeleton found in Chile so-called Atacama humanoid you know might be et you can see why somebody might might think that if you see the structure but anyway Nolan and

35:06 people from other universities put together a complete genetics thing and did the entire genome and found that in fact no unfortunately this is not evidence of UT it's deformed human and so that's up on the website if you are read the paper it was published in one of the top genetics journals very well peer-reviewed and meetings are being set up with people from other countries because other countries who also have materials don't necessarily want to give them to the US government because they disappear in a black hole and they never learn anything but given our commitment as a public benefit corporation that that's not going to happen with us they're now talking to us and we're collaborating on obtaining materials from foreign countries and of course we're negotiating with media outlets to get all this out in the public in the

36:08 form of documentaries or TV shows or whatever so basically that's the back story and a foreword story and I'm glad to answer any questions I'll answer any that I can thank you thank or terrific presentation so your good friend John Alexander published a book I don't have a chance to ask him this - why was it so hard for him to find who who was you know who's doing the research who was holding the files on UFOs and his book he said everybody thought that somebody else was doing it but you know everyone said and all the it was not me it was somebody else doing it and if if materials are being held in

37:11 special access programs casual conversation even with high-level people and who know your interest and they're interested - won't necessarily reveal the facts thank you my name is Joe movement house I don't know if you were aware of it where are papers in your table but my second question would be out of everything he said one of the most interesting things was there are a lot more tapes Katie characterizes an ad where tell us they're not different from this and some

38:11 of them are classified because of where they were taken but as far as the content of what we're interested in from a technical standpoint they're they're not that different and provided you strike out the same location and so on then there's a chance of getting them Declassified well you have to pick and choose among the data I'm familiar with the citizens hearing and so on and certainly the depositions by the individuals who were in the launch

39:12 towers for missiles that Bob Salas for example that that's all really good data and so and the FAA Administrator came forward all good data hey thanks very much talk I wanted to bring them something up in regards to the nature of the release and the figure was 22 million as well as a program that was stated to be closed I guess it's I guess maybe a week but I think I it's basically common knowledge among psychical researchers that the spending in actuality isn't you know the building's account more so some people leave me go for research community you know raise the question of you know is this a wooden duck on the pond to stay to figure so those 22 million in that state that the program no longer exists

40:12 of something that you might make some comments on the concern I think that's a fair concern this 22 million dollar program was one particular program that doesn't say there weren't other programs with other funding levels and so it isn't like suddenly there was this one program it didn't last long didn't have that much money and it shut down I mean interest is continuing negotiations are continuing or the programs are being looked at so a lot is going on I and my colleagues spend a lot of time in Washington talking to committees that are looking at this from many different angles so the general view that oh well is just one program came forward didn't provide much of value and then it got canceled that's

41:12 not really the case and also those figures are associated with the figures that went out to contractors but that doesn't mean that people within the system aren't still working on it all of us maverick and mentors working in our garages and mentoring and engineering devices is there going to be a clearinghouse for people to love tree discoveries like just the thing about frequency shift oh we won't be looking for line shifts and lasers you see for you generally my girl Effects of Maya just something like that is incredibly valuable things like that well we have a maverick inventor program at earth tech international organization and also the to the stars Academy is putting together a research organization so if you're doing symmetric engineering in your lab and you've got some lasers shifting in frequency bring them all will look at them okay

42:16 thank you