Disclosure Project press conference, National Press Club (May 9, 2001), full event

0:08 years ago the great Screen Actor Jimmy Kagney was working with a young actress that was about to be fired he went to the director and said let me talk to her and he walked over to the actress and he said look it's simple you walk in the room you plant your feet look me in the eye and tell the truth the logo of the xfiles is the truth is out there the truth is out there I'm going to paraphrase the truth is in here you're about to hear the truth I'm an actor my name is John Cipher for seven years I walked through the door planted my feet and tried to tell the truth as Chief Daniels on Hill Street Blues as general Craig on the hit sitcom Major Dad I was two years on Dynasty year on not's Landing I've done

1:10 five afternoon soap operas 12 Broadway shows and 20 films one of the Broadway shows I did was the great musical man of lamancha on Broadway I was Richard Kylie's original understudy I sang the words to dream The Impossible Dream to fight the unbeatable foe to bear with unbearable sor to run where the brave did not go I'm here to introduce your host this morning Dr Steven Greer he's a man who is running pel Mel with the brave dare not go he was an emergency room physician in fact the director of emergency medicine at a major hospital in North Carolina 3 years ago he sat his wife and his four daughters down and said I've been doing this part-time running after the truth for seven years

2:11 now now I'm going to do it full-time he walked away from all that money to pursue the truth I always think of Hamlet's great line to Horatio there are more things between Heaven and Hell than it dreamed of in your philosophy Horatio I'm going to introduce a man who says there are more things between Heaven and Hell than any of us have accepted and I have the witnesses and the documents to prove it ladies and gentlemen Dr Steven G thank you very much John uh members of the press the American public and people of the world we are here today to disclose the truth about a subject that has been

3:13 ridiculed and questioned denied for at least 50 years the men and women who are on this stage and the sum 350 additional Military Intelligence Witnesses to the so-called UFO matter and extraterrestrial intelligence can prove and will prove that we are not alone I would like to thank Sarah McLendon who is with us today the famed White House correspondent for her sponsorship of this meeting thank you very much Sarah in 19 1993 a group of uh military advisers to this project and I met out in the countryside in Virginia and we decided that it was time for civilians military intelligence and

4:13 other people to come together to disclose the truth about the subject which is called UFOs since that time I have personally briefed a sitting director of Central Intelligence James woy President Clinton's first CI director I have personally briefed the head of the defense intelligence agency the head of intelligence joint staff members of the Senate intelligence committee many members of Congress members of the European leadership the Japanese cabinet and others and what I have found is that none of them are surprised that this is true but they are uniformly horrified that they have not had access to these projects we can establish through these Witnesses whom we have identified which now number over 400 and these are people who have been inside the CIA NSA nro Air Force Navy Marines Army all divisions of the

5:14 intelligence and Military Community as well as corporate Witnesses contractors to the government and these are folks who have been involved in so-called black budget or covert unacknowledged projects these unacknowledged special access projects are taking in at least 40 to 80 billion per year and they are sitting on technologies that can change the world forever the reason we are coming forward now is that we are asking for the US Congress and for President Bush to move towards an official inquiry and disclosure on this subject it has the most profound implications for the human future for the US US National Security and for Peace specifically Technologies connected to UFO and extraterrestrial Vehicles if Declassified and used for energy generation and propulsion would

6:16 solve the looming energy crisis definitively would end global warming would correct the environmental challenges that the Earth is facing it is also critical that we begin to debate as a society the propriety of placing weapons in space if indeed as we can prove it is true that we are not alone and that space is territory which we are sharing with other civilizations it could be a very destabilizing thing to place weapons in space this is not being debated because it is all the national International radar screens it needs to be placed on it and we are here today to do it we can establish through this testimony that these objects of extraterrestrial origin have been tracked on radar going thousands of miles per hour stopping and making right-hand turns that they use

7:17 anti-gravity propulsion systems which we have already figured out how they work in classified projects in the United States Great Britain and elsewhere that these objects have landed on Tera firma at times have been disabled and have been retrieved specifically by teams within the United States that extraterrestrial life forms have been retrieved and their vehicles have been taken and studied thoroughly for at least 50 years we can prove through the testimony and documents that we will be presenting that this subject has been hidden from members of Congress and at least two two administrations that we are aware of presidential administrations and that the Constitution of the United States has been subverted by The Growing Power of these classified projects and that this is a danger to the National Security there is no evidence I wish to

8:19 emphasize that these life forms from elsewhere are hostile towards us but there is a great deal of evidence that they are concerned with our hostility there are times when they have neutralized or rendered inert the launch capabilities of intercontinental ballistic missiles Witnesses here today will describe those events to you they have shown clearly that they do not want us to weaponize space and yet we are proceeding down that dangerous path and it will be established that these projects because they have not supervised properly by the Congress by the US president by the International Community have become a threat to the Security and for this reason we feel we must disclose the facts this is the beginning of the campaign for disclosure and in a memo that I wrote to President Bush last week

9:21 I have stated that this campaign will persist until our goals are met and they are as follows that we have open honest hearings on the subject in the US Congress that there would be a permanent ban on the weaponization of space or the targeting of any objects of origin that there be a full and complete study of classified Technologies connected to this subject to see how they could be Declassified and applied for peaceful energy generation so that the world may get off of fossil fuels in enough time to prevent greater ecosystem damage or War over the looming energy crisis which is sure to sweep the Earth in the coming decade this is a matter of the most pressing import it has been ridiculed yes I know many in the media would like

10:23 to talk about Little Green Men but in reality the subject is left that because it is so serious I have had grown men weep who are in the Pentagon who are members of Congress and who have said to me what are we going to do here's what we will do we will see that this matter is properly disclosed and these courageous Witnesses the first 21 of over 100 that we have already interviewed on video tape have stepped forward to speak the truth now I expect people to be skeptical but not irrationally so because these men and women have come forward and they have their credentials they can establish who they are and they have been firsthand witnesses to some of the most important events in the history of the human race as was pointed out to me by some of

11:25 the men here they were charged with handling the nuclear weapons of the United States their word was trusted on everything of great importance for the National Security we must trust their word now as monor baluchi said at the Vatican in an interview I had with him recently it is irrational not to accept the testimony of these Witnesses so please be skeptical but that is not the same as Prejudiced and close-minded this is a matter of great importance and I ask the media the scientific community and the political Community to look seriously at this matter and to do the right thing for Humanity and for our children we have available for the media and for members of Congress a nearly 500 page briefing document with transcripts from dozens of these top secret Witnesses we have a 4-Hour videotape summary it's not a commercial product I

12:27 warn you from this project of the 120 hours that we have in interviews so far they've been boiled down to 4 hours and it's available for the Congress to review and for the major media to review we can establish that this subject is real and has tremendous significance for the human future I ask on all of you who are listening to contact the members of Congress that represent you and the leaders around the world and other countri countries and ask them to hold an honest inquiry into this subject to support a ban on weaponizing Space since we are sharing space with other life forms and that we move quickly as a people to understanding that this is the end of the childhood of the human race it is time for us to become mature adults in the cosmic civilizations out there to do this

13:30 we must become a peaceful civilization and we must look as we go into space with an intent of cooperating with other civilizations not weaponizing that High Frontier the men and women who will speak next will do so in order beginning on your left they will introduce themselves I ask for the media to refrain from questions until each witness has spoken briefly about who they are and what they have personally been involved with or witnessed in their government military or government Careers at the end we will have questions all of you may ask questions for as long as we can stay here and we will provide you with all the information that you need so we will begin now with the first of our Witnesses Mr John Callahan

14:43 my name is John cahan I'm a retired FAA employee I was the division manager for the accidents evaluation and investigation division in DC about two years before I retired I received a call from Alaska region with the um region wanted to know what to tell the media when I question him tell the media what he says about the UFO and it went downhill from there what UFO it turned out I told him what any government employee would do at that time was to tell them it's under investigation and then I had him send all that data to the FAA tech center in Atlantic City the next day my uh immediate voice service director harv Safir and I went to Atlantic City I had just purchased a uh a new video camera and I videoed the uh the event and L City we had him play back on a uh on a scope you would call a scope a plan view display PVD exactly what the pilot uh uh seen or what the

15:45 controller seen and we uh tied that in with the voice tape so we could hear exactly what the controller said and what he heard and we taped it we came back the next day uh briefed the administrator Admiral LAN on what happened he wanted the 5-minute briefing after we started the briefing he want to know if he could see the video we put the video on he watched the video the whole video the next day he set up a uh a meeting for me to give a dog and pony show to President Reagan scientific staff and whoever they brought over and to hand off all that data to them that morning in the FAA round room it was either 9 or 10:00 uh three men from uh Reagan's scientific staff three CIA people three FBI people and I don't remember who the other guys were along with all the FAA experts that I brought with me they could decide or talk about the hardware and software how it worked we put on a dog and pony show we let them watch the video we had all the data there we had

16:47 all the printouts that the computer uh uh put out they got all excited over it when it was all done the CIA one of the CIA men told the people they went now sworn a SA that this meeting never happened and this event never happened when I asked them why you I thought it was probably just a stealth bomber at the time he says well this is the first time that we have uh recorded radar data on a UFO and these guys are going to get all excited drooling over all this data I said well you're going to tell the public about it and he says no we don't tell the public about this it would uh Panic the public he says we're going to go back and study I said Okay that was what he was going to do now I've told this story many times and I've get sometimes funny looks from people I have with me the uh voice tapes of the controllers that were involved the FAA original tapes see after we handed this stuff off to the

17:48 president's staff the FAA didn't know what to do with it we don't separate UFOs from real traffic so it's not our okay I have a copy of the original of the uh video that we took which is interesting and once once the thing was all over the report started coming into my office but because it wasn't an FAA air traffic problem the faa's report ended up on a table in my office and it stayed there until I retired when one of the staffers packed up all my gear and helped it move to my house also in a box I found just a few good days ago in my 1992 tax return I have the target printouts from the uh computer data which so if you wanted to re or look at every Target that was up there at the time you can now reproduce this from this piece of paper here and it's called the UFO incident uh Japan 1648 I believe

18:50 the number was it happened on November the 18th 1986 uh I'm prepared to go to Congress to swear before Congress that everything I've told you you people and everything that is here is the truth thank you good morning I hope you'll pardon me I'm a little bit nervous my name is Charles L Brown I'm a lieutenant colonel US Air Force retired subsequently seven years with the Foreign Service I like the name Charlie Brown a gentleman by name of Charles Schultz of great talent sort of uh elevated the name if you will uh during World War II I was a young Farm Boy from West Virginia I got the Patriotic bug joined the United States Army ended up flying bombers in

19:51 Europe and ended the war transport in Pacific finished College in the summer late summer summer of 49 weall to active duty in a newly formed United States Air Force I was assigned to an organization called office of special investigations the Air Force as most of you know was formed in 1947 OSI as a central investigative Agency for the Air Force was formed I think in 1948 so everything was relatively new needless to say starting in 47 UFOs were rather new the Air Force intelligence air technical Intelligence Center was at rri Patterson Air Force Space and I had my office in a building adjacent to it and our organization was the worldwide investigative Agency for the Air Force for any unidentified flying objects this lasted for about two years the project name was known as project Grudge it was a predecessor to a project known as Blue

20:53 Book which edre Pelt headed during my experience with it I would collect the data from I didn't collect it it was sent into my office I analyzed it as a pilot investigator I was able to offer some bits of advice to the air technical intelligence people now you might visualize a massive office but as I recall we had a first lieutenant uh a secretary and a technical sergeant that was the essence of Project Blue Book when it started a project Grudge Blue Book and expanded somewhat during the review as an analyst of these various documentary reports if you will or documents I became clearly convinced that there was substance to what was being reported in that we had ground visual ground radar Airborne Visual and Airborne radar confirmation of some of these sightings the individuals who made the sightings were

21:55 everything from airline pilots military Pilots police officers some of the people that your lives depend upon on a daily basis these are very reputable and creditable people I hope that the testimony here from very credible people will convince you of that and will further Steve Greer's disclosure project in that pressure needs to be brought to bring this to the attention not only of the Americans but of people all over the planet these vehicles have been seen and confirmed all over the planet I am willing to sign a sworn statement or testify to my judgment and to what I have observed such things do exist please believe me please believe the those to follow me thank

22:57 you my name is Michael Smith I was in the Air Force sergeant from 1967 to 19 uh 73 I was aircraft control and warning operator while I was assigned to clouth Falls Oregon in early 1970 arrived at the radar site and they were watching a UFO on a radar that was hovering at about 80,000 ft it sat there for about 10 minutes and then slowly descended until it dropped off the radar was gone for about 5 10 minutes and then instantly reappeared at 880,000 FT stationary the next sweep of the radar it was 200 miles away stationary it hovered there for about 10 minutes and redid the whole cycle twice more when I found out what the normal

23:57 what you normally do when you see a UFO I was told that you notify NORAD you don't necessarily write anything down you don't write anything down and you keep it to yourself it's a need to know only and Norad one night called me about later in the year to let me know as a heads up that there was a UFO coming up the California coastline I asked him what I should do about this they said nothing don't write it down just it's just a heads up and then 1972 while stationed at 753r radar Squadron in Sue St Marine Michigan I received uh couple panicky calls from police officers who were chasing three UFOs from mov Bridge up I75 so I immediately checked the radar confirmed that they they were there called no ad and they were concerned cuz they had two inbound b52s was going to

24:58 kinow Air Force Base so they diverted them because they didn't want any proximity of the two and that night I answered many calls from uh the police department Sheriff's Department stuff and my standard response was that there was nothing on radar and I will testify to this under oath to a congressional good morning my name is Enrique KC I am a traffic controller I'm sorry uh for my English I'm so scar I'm not accustomed to talk in front of a lot of people um I'm here because I'm been witnessed in an involuntary way uh on my work uh I work in Mexico City as radar controller and the International Airport Mexico and uh I'm going to give an

26:00 example about this sinus that we have in Mexico for several uh years and this issue happens a lot of times on my unfortunately for example in March 4 1992 we detect 15 objects uh west side of the Toca airport that is very close of our International Airport at 50 mes L then uh uh July 28th of 1994 we have an um almost a collision or something that we can name in that way uh with a international flight I mean uh domestic flight of iron Mexico 129 commands by the uh pilot rundo cantes Rano that has a trash or something about in his main ring year in the right

27:00 left uh that's Ur night at 1030 more or less then in the next week uh the same year in the same moment uh the AO Mexico fly 904 has another almost Collision that was reported for the pilot Coro the Corso at 11:30 in the morning and we we detect that object on a radar uh um suddenly just for a moment then H in the next week we have a lot of stings reports by the pilots that give us information about the weird uh traffic or something uh brighting lights and uh different times and we did take some of them uh in in in that uh week but in September 15 of

28:01 1994 we have an A detection about uh 5 hours more or less on a radar and a new equipment that we believe that uh that equipment was uh working in in not a good way cuz uh uh it's not human that you have um detection by 5 hours of the same object and apparently without movement well we concur with the technical of persons of radar in our country that the radar system was working well and uh and and was very exciting and we surprised when uh at the next day we received information about parodist named Hae Maan that is studi this cases in Mexico about that siding a from a lot of people in the med P City uh very is an another Point located

29:02 southeast of the TOA airport about a sighting of the big um flying saer apply 50 m of diameter than for a lot of people and uh that let the trashes something in in the in in the ground well next in November 90 249 94 uh we have an on service officially our new radar system and after that moment we have uh information very um exactly about of this sing at the same time with the pilots and detections uh that's why I'm here because we consider and my country that this is very dangerous we have a lot of more cases but I don't want to use more time in this but uh uh it's very important that the people uh on the world knows these events and uh consider

30:07 that could be very dangerous for aeronautical situation especially in my country I don't know why in my country that's occur frequently but the the point is that happens and uh and we consider dangerous and we had only I fortunately one TR but we don't want to haveen M more thank you very much and I'm Sor my name is Graham bethon I'm a retired Navy Commander pilot had a top secret clearance 50 years ago February the 10th 1951 I was flying from kvic Iceland to argentin nland it was at night it was dark about 300 miles outside of arenta I saw a glow on the water like approaching the city at night as we approach this glow it turned to a

31:07 monstrous circle of white lights on the water we watched this for a while the lights went out there was nothing on the water next thing we saw was a yellow Halo small much smaller than whatever it was launched from and that was 15 miles away up to our altitude because of the TR I disengaged the autopod shoved the nose over to try to go on this thing at that time I heard a noise underneath I thought maybe it hit us it was actually some of the crew members ducking and they collided and a couple of them were injured then it appeared over to the right and moved out slowly and flew with us it was still not at our altitude but we could see the shape of it it had a dome we could see the we could see the discharge I went back in have let the other pilot Al Jones take my seat to see what the passenger's reaction was came back to the pill told him not to report anything simply because what that

32:08 the cers had said to me maybe they would lock us up so basically the instruments in the cockpit we had four or five faires in the area of magnetic compass you know the electromagnetic an area of direction finders and this type of thing the craft was tracked by radar in excess of 1,800 mph it never did get to our a we had 31 passengers plus the psychiatrist and the crew members that all cited this at different areas when we landed at Argent new we were interrogated by the Air Force an excellent interrogation Captain Paulson when we landed at the Naval Air test center here at P Tuit River we were required by Navy intelligence to make out individual reports out of the National Archives I have the the 18 page official Navy and Air Force report I've made up a a report to straighten out all the truth there's a stack of books out there this hi have

33:08 written all of this up so the truth is here I will testify under oath before Congress that everything that I have said is my name is Dan Willis I was in the United States Navy I held a top secret crypto level 14 extra sensitive material handling security clearance I worked in the code room at the naval communication station in San Francisco in 1969 I received a priority message from a ship near Alaska that was classified as secret the ship reported uh merging out of the ocean um near Port b a brightly glowing uh reddish orange elliptical object approximately 70 ft in diameter emerged

34:10 out of the water shot into space uh traveling at about 7,000 mph this was uh tracked on ship's radar and substantiate it uh years later I worked at the um Naval electronic engineering center in San Diego for 13 years the um coworker who I worked with worked at the NORAD facility when he first started working at the facility he noticed objects going on the screens to track everything out in space and in the air objects going off the scale doing right angle turns when he inquired um his older supervisor advised him that uh quote it was just a visit from one of our little friends I thought this a little unusual uh these statements are true I'm willing to testify on our oath before Congress thank

35:17 you my name is Don Phillips I was in the United States Air Force and had worked with certain intelligence agencies of the United States government prior to my air force uh prior to joining the Air Force I worked for the famous loeds skunkworks and I was working for them when I was attending college and I worked them worked for them in the capacity as a design engineer it was one of my proudest moments of my life to work with a man by the name of Kelly Johnson a lot of you might be familiar with that uh it turns out that the models of aircraft that we were building as you know uh were all classified were in the Deep black and that I came in on on the end of the U2 project my main project was known later as the SR71 the SR71 had a predecessor it had a

36:21 special model built for the CIA and that those models were one one passenger One Pilot special aircraft in to get from one place to another very very quickly now these sr71s as we know them the Blackbird are the type of aircraft that are still classified in a sense as far as the altitude that it flies at and also the speed records that it holds I'm very proud to say that this aircraft played a big part in helping to end the Cold War the aircraft the predecessor aircraft there's strong evidence to suggest that perhaps these aircraft had a different role once in the air each pilot and I knew a few of them each pilot had an assignment before they took off okay they learned about the

37:21 assignment immediately prior takeoff and there's strong evidence to suggest that there was a dual role in that they were monitoring some type of traffic to and from planet Earth this can be verified at a later point this was Pro I'll jump into my experience my first field assignment for the United States Air Force was at Las Vegas Air Force Station and that was my first experience with Las Vegas and I couldn't understand why people were being so U excited about going to a place Place such as this but I soon found out about a year later uh Nellis Air Force Base is located there Nellis is a major training center for different types of special aircraft and fighter aircraft one of the Premier training sites for Pilots all around the world however when I learned that my assignment was at a Radar Site 50 Mi out of town up near Mount

38:22 Charleston uh I had no idea where we where I'd be so finally in the daylight I was able to find the location and in in 1965 for Duty in 1966 early in the morning about 1: to 2: a.m. I was sleeping I was staying there on base and our Barracks were at about 8,000 ft I heard a lot of commotion you know at that altitude sound carries sound carries tremendously and and I thought well it's early in the morning summertime and there is a lot it's very warm and maybe I should get up and take a look I didn't really want to but I got up and took a look walked up to the main road up near my office which was the Commander's office I was on the commander staff Lieutenant Colonel Evans and I couldn't I I was say who's making all this noise who's making all

39:24 this noise at this time of the morning so when I got within about 50 yards of the five four or five people that were standing there one being the chief of security they were looking up in the air and I say gee they all their heads are all head looking at the same direction well I looked up to the West Northwest and to my amazement there were lights flashing around the sky moving at anywhere from what seemed like 24 thou 24 400 to about mph now the fact that we're taking an estimate from a distance uh you know we figured well this is this is quite something however we continue to watch these fly these darting lights go across the sky and stop absolutely stop come to a dead stop and reverse in an acute angle their Direction and then proceed on into sort

40:26 of they were traveling so fast that you could almost see a pattern left by if you are computer people when you move a mouse real quick across the screen you see a little bit of a tail well that's exactly the way these six or seven craft worked after 5 minutes of watching these things they all seem to group up to the Northwest okay they started to come in on a circle but what I would like to point out is that where they were putting on their display in the north north West Sky just directly east of that is what is known as Area 51 Area 51 is a aec name okay atomic energy commission that was the old name for atomic energy commission we knew it as the Groom Lake flight test facility in the Air Force and it was where we tested our aircraft at the after we got the Prototype made from the skunk works so here are the let's get back to the

41:27 circle in the sky what they did was coales and and started rotating in a circle and then they disappeared well I thought gee this is something that we have to keep quiet and that was verified by the chief of security but we waited there and talked it over for a little bit it seemed like I think it was an hour then came the radar people from the Scopes which were at 10,000 plus feet came down for their dinner at 2:00 in the morning and the first person off the bus was a good friend of mine Anthony quar he said he was white as a sheet and he says did you see that yeah we all said yeah yeah it was a nice display what a show he says we documented them on radar and he says we didn't give them clearance we just the standing order was let them fly through the radar beam he says we documented six to S UFOs now we don't know who was guiding those but they were certainly intelligent and uh we don't know where they landed because they coalesced and disappeared so I will say at this point to keep it

42:29 short that I will testify under oath as to what I say is true and I will do so before Congress thank you my name is Robert Solace uh contrary to what it says on the card I was not a lieutenant colonel in the Air Force I was was in the Air Force active duty after I graduated from the Air Force Academy 1964 until 1971 and separated as a captain in uh uh March of 1967 I was stationed at malstrom Air Force Base Montana um as a missile launch officer Minute Man missiles uh on an on early morning of uh March 16th 1967 I got a call from my security guard primary security guard upstairs uh we had about uh six as I

43:33 recall uh flight security uh Airmen upstairs I was downstairs 60 ft underground in a capsule uh monitoring and uh controlling 10 uh nuclear tipped Minute Man missiles uh I got a call that morning uh that they were seeing strange lights flying in the sky time uh I I disregarded that call uh told him to uh call me when something more significant happened um I got another call uh subsequent to that call and this time it was a more uh intense tone and the in the guard's uh voice is very clearly frightened um he said there was a uh a bright glowing red object hovering outside the front gate it was was oval shaped um he had all the other guards out there with their weapons drawn right after that call I woke up my commander who was on a rest period uh uh Fred

44:36 mewald a retired Colonel now uh and told him about the phone calls as I was telling him about the phone calls my weapons started going down uh one after the other they went into a no-go condition what we call no-go condition they were unlaunchable um we lost somewhere between uh six and eight weapons that morning uh within minutes of having received that second phone call of a UFO hovering outside the front gate um uh again that morning we after reporting it to the uh command post uh we were informed that a similar very similar incident happened at Echo flight uh I was at Oscar flight uh they lost all 10 of their weapons and under similar circumstances very similar circumstances where UFOs were sighted over the launch facilities uh they had they had

45:38 maintenance Crews and security crews out there that had spent the night and they were reporting UFOs over those um and the commander of of that flight was Eric Carlson uh he's he also separated as a captain and the deputy Commander was uh Walt figel uh as a lieutenant um we have those Witnesses uh that I just mentioned the names I just mentioned are uh have have spoken of this event before and they will back up this story um we also have documentation uh that I received uh through foa requests from the Air Force uh outlining the the echo flight incident and including in in that documentation a reference to UFOs we have um tx's uh covering this

46:41 incident uh and in one t x it it says uh the fact that no apparent reason for the loss of 10 missiles can be readily identified is caused for grave concern to this headquarters uh this was from sa headquarters so we've received we've got those telexes I've got about 12 Witnesses that'll verify parts of this story including um uh of a man who investigated the incident afterwards for the Air Force and you'll hear a little bit more about that with from the next witness um and uh another guard that uh witnessed the UFO in that same time period and another officer who retired a full Colonel who had other reports of UFOs and sary to that excuse me I've got

47:41 the complete report on a Minot North Dakota incident that was Min not Air Force based North Dakota which happened in August of 1966 very similar UFOs sided over uh uh missile silos and also a UFO incident that was that was investigated by the Air Force immediately after our incident within a week I'm willing to testify to the truth of all these matters that I've spoken about this in front of Congress under oath thank you good morning my name is dwne arnson I served 26 years as a communication Electronics officer in the US Air Force all over the world including Vietnam I uh was lucky to be selected to be commander of three different units in the Air Force I held a top secret SCI TK clearance and for those that know it is slightly Above Top Secret I retired in

48:44 1986 as a colonel at R Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio I would like to relate about three different experiences if you will that relate to UFOs as a young Lieutenant over in Germany Ram sign Airbase Germany back in the early 60s I was in charge of the cryptographic center I had a top secet crypto clearance at that time and I can clearly recall seeing a message that went through my crypto Center which said that a UF UFO had crashed on the island of spitsberg in Norway and the team of scientists were coming to investigate it going forward to the 1967 time frame I was assigned to the 28th a division at Great Falls Montana and I was the officer in charge of the Communication Center there also I was a top secret control officer for the division I uh had a crypto account I was a account custodian and I also passed out nuclear authenticators during that time I can

49:46 recall seeing a message come through that Communication Center which said basic what Bob was just got through talking about is that a UFO was seen near the missile sidles and the missiles were coincidentally my first the person that Boeing sent to investigate the particular missile conditions if you will what made them shut down was my first manager at boing Mr Bob Kaminsky who has since passed away and I can recall him on different occasions he lived close to me in Auburn Washington that's where I'm from and he said Arie he says those missiles were perfectly clean that was a result so the my last incident concerned when I was in the as a commander of the unit in Great Falls or in casell Air Force Station Maine I had contacts with the security police at Lauren Air Force Base and they told about UFOs that were seen near the nuclear weapon storage areas on Lauren

50:47 Air Force Base and i' be glad to testify to Congress that this is absolutely the truth thank good morning my name is harand Bentley during 1957 and 1959 I was a PFC in the United States Army stationed north of Washington DC on the Nike Ajax missile base close to Maryland in May this month in 196 or 1958 about 6:00 a.m. I heard a noise outside to sound like a pulsating Transformer I sat up in my bunk I looked out the window I saw a craft heading for the ground and crashed pieces broke off of that craft immediately took off again so there's a lot more to that story but I've got to speed this up now the next night I was on radar

51:50 Duty I get a call from the gburg missile base he says hey I got 12 to 15 UFOs outside 50 to 100 ft above me so I asked him I said what does it sound like he took his head mic off held it out the van window and said here and the sound of the same sound I heard the previous morning except a lot more of them so I my radar was on standby so I immediately turned it on and got the blip just outside the clutter I marked it on my radar screen and then for a few minutes later all of a sudden they took off as they took off the The Sweep came around hit the blip the second when it came around it hit it again that blip was 2/3 away off my radar scope in order to get that far at a constant velocity was 177,000 mph that was my first incident 10 years

52:52 later by this time I received a be a bachelor's science degree in electrical engineering and I was working in California now I'm sorry that all I can say is I was somewhere in California working on a classified project that had nothing to do with my experience that I there as I was working and it was like 2 3 in the morning California time I heard a Houston astronaut communication link Comm link I didn't pay much attention to it until I heard the word bogey of course my ears P picked up immediately an unidentified flying object of some sort whether it's a craft meteorite or whatever was on a collision course with that module going to the loop around the moon so basically I listened for some time and then I stopped and went back to work and then I heard there they go

53:57 in the astronaut World some of you may may not know this there's a term called Green Turtle and it used to be I don't know if it is today or not but used to be is you're not allowed to use profanity over than that and the first person that does that whoever hears it first and says green turtle that astronaut's got to buy that man and his entire family had dinner at the most expensive place of well to end this real quick one of them said damn they went off the UFOs took off he says damn that was fast and somebody yelled green turtle and then he said another word a cinnamon to crap and then somebody else yelled green turtle and you could see him gr his teeth is now you had to buy two meals and and my particular experience I will testify before Congress if

54:59 necessary and explain exactly what happened thank you my name is John mayard I'm retired army I retired as a Sergeant First Class for my entire year 21 years of service I held a top secret clearance compartmentalized at times to as high as TK Omni crypto and others I had access to very very documents my testimony is basically two prone one I retired from DIA in 1980 and when as an administrator you take over an office you take over everything and you sign for everything and I signed for well over 2, documents in order to sign an inventory

56:00 of those things you have to read them not word for word but basically I went through every document to make sure that it was complete it was there as they told me I turned my charge over to the next person the same documents were there so I got quite a good knowledge of what was going on in those documents and believe me there are many many different references to UFOs there was also npic pictures that shows that it with targeted objects every case you know now I worked on the salt one and salt two areas for the office that I worked in so we were taking pictures all the time for verification of nuclear disarmament and there was some objects in those pictures that didn't belong there the second thong prong to this whole thing is that a lot of people talk about conspiracies over a shadow government I'm willing to testify before

57:04 Congress that these Black Operations do exist I nearly became part of it but I saw the light I think or was it and I got out and that's it we have to disclose what we know and I am willing to testify before Congress under oath or before any other organization the what I witnessed was true good morning my name is Carl wolf and I was a Precision Electronics photographic repairman with a top secret clearance in the United States Air Force I was station at Langley Air Force basee in Virginia in 1965 um in mid1 1965 I was loan to the lunar orbiter

58:05 project at Nasa on Langley field uh Dr kie was in charge of that project they had problems with a piece of um electronic equipment that was bottlenecking their production of photographs I went to the facility and when I walked into the facility there were scientists from all over the world I was stunned actually to see people at a NASA project uh from all over the world that didn't make any sense to me initially um I was taken into the laboratory where the equipment was malfunctioning I couldn't repair it in the dark I asked to have it removed a um Airman second class was in the dark room at that time I was also an Airman second class um I was interested how the whole process functioned how the data got from the lunar orbiter to the laboratory asked the young man if he described the process to me he did about 30 minutes into the process he said to me um in a very distressed way

59:09 um by the way we've discovered a base on the back side of the moon and then he proceeded to put photographs down in front of me and clearly in these photographs were structures uh mushroom shaped buildings spherical buildings and towers and at that point I was very concerned because I knew we were working at compartmentalized security he had breached security and I was actually frightened at that moment and I did not question him any further and a few moments later someone did come into the room um I worked there for three more days and I remember going home and naively thinking I can't wait to hear about this on the evening news and here it is more than 30 years later and I hope we hear about it tonight and I will testify under oath before Congress con that what I'm saying is the truth thank you Carl uh good morning everyone my name is Donna hair and I worked at filco Ford Aerospace for from

1:00:13 1967 to 1981 during that time I was a design illustrator draftsman uh I did the launch slides and Landing slides and also so projection plotting boards lunar maps for NASA we were a contractor but at most of the time I worked on site excuse me in 8 I had the opportunity to do extra work during downtime which was between missions and I walked into a photo lab which was the NASA lab across the hallway I had a secret clearance which is not that high but I was able to go into restricted areas which this was uh at the time I was talking to one of the texts in there and he drew my attention to a photograph that a NASA photograph it had a DOT on it and I said what is that well he drew my attention to it and and I said is that a a DOT on the Emulsion and he said and he's smiling and he has his hands crossed and he said uh round dots on the Emulsion

1:01:15 don't leave round Shadows on the ground and this was an aerial photograph of the earth I'm assuming the Earth because it had pine trees on it and the Shadows of the craft or whatever it was were in the same angle as the trees and by its very nature UFO and I wanted to clarify that to a gentleman that was talking to me means unidentified so I did not know what this was but I realized at this point that it's very secret that it was Kept Secret because I asked him what are you going to do with this piece of information and he said we always airbrush these out before we sell them to the public so they're piss pesky little creatures uh appearing on this uh photograph they wanted to get rid of uh after that I decided I would ask questions to other people that work there and I found that I had to ask them away from the site and not on site a guard told me that he was asked to burn photographs and not to look at them and

1:02:16 there was a guard another guard guarding him who was in green fatigues watching him burn the photographs and he said he was too tempted he looked at one and it was a picture of a UFO and he was very descriptive I can go into that later with anyone uh he immediately was hit in the head and he had a big gash in his forehead he was knocked out and he's terrified so he would have to be protected uh another incident I knew someone in quarantine with the Apollo Astronauts he told me that the Apollo astronaut saw Craft on the moon when we landed and that is what he told me and he also was afraid he said that the astronauts are told to keep this quiet they're not allowed to talk about it so I do want to let you know that I worked out there for a number of years and this I ran into this so it's not something everyone knows that works out there for a long time my boss didn't know about it uh some people that sat right next to me didn't know about it it's it's very strange because

1:03:18 I don't know how they can do it but they can let some people know about it and then others not I'm willing to testify before Congress that what I'm saying is true and uh thank you very much thank good morning ladies and gentlemen and members of the press I my name is Larry Warren uh 20 years ago in 1980 I was a security specialist assigned to RAF bentwaters Woodbridge NATO uh Air Force facilities in suff East Anglia I had a secret uh security clearance I guarded uh our backline nuclear weapons that were stored there at the time un without the knowledge of the people of Great Britain uh I went through a a portion of a three night UFO event where objects made incursions over our wsa fired Pencil Thin beams of light into them and adversely affected the ordinance

1:04:19 possibly these objects were on the ground on two different nights potten there was another life form scene this is an unpopular truth these events were of extreme defense significance to not only Her Majesty's government but this government as well and they are still shrouded in secrecy uh they are very complex they are very vast this is more about a human rights issue than just a UFO issue uh 20 years ago this room would be empty I see a turn in history this is history in motion but unfortunately it's history with the security classification I would be more than honored to swear under oath that I experienced what I did I saw what I saw these events produced not only uh after numerous denials by this government a memo by Lieutenant Colonel Charles halt our Deputy based Commander which reads like science fiction it also produced years later an on-site audio tape he made as these objects uh performed their Feats and did

1:05:20 what they did and violated airspace these events are of streem defense significance I hope my brothers in arms that went through these events will be given immunity at some point and be able to join us here it is an honor to share the stage with all of these PE people and uh I think for all our children my son Dennis God bless you son um we can change the world Your Heroes for being here also and I will testify in front of Congress if has to God bless thank all my name is George filer III the reason I'm here is because George fer ith is in the hanger and will be born on Friday and and I'm a retired intelligence officer and flyer with almost 5,000 hours and uh I didn't believe in UFOs until London control called us in the winter of 1962 and

1:06:22 asked us would we Chase one and we said sure So we let down from 30,000 ft to 1,000 ft where the UFO was hovering and we went into a steep dive and actually exceeded the um red line of the aircraft so it's kind of dangerous changing UFOs any case uh I was able to get the UFO on the aircraft radar at about 40 Mi and we could see a light out in the distance and as we closed we kept on picking up this radar return point I'm mentioning that the radar return was very uh distinct and solid indicating it was some kind of a metallic object we got about a mile from the UFO and it kind of lit up in the sky and went off into space very similar to what the shuttle looks like when it takes off um later on I was working in intelligence in Vietnam I briefed to General Brown about UFOs when I was in

1:07:24 um 21st Air Force Maguire Air Force Base brief General glow about a UFO over Tran Iran in 1976 that two f4s from the Iranian Air Force had taken off and try to intercept UFO and when they turned on their Fire Control Systems they immediately went off all the electrical systems went out the planes had to return to base this was particularly significant because it was also picked up on satellites in 1978 on January 18th I was going into the base every morning I did the uh briefing to the general staff and I noticed that uh there are some lights off in the distance at the end of the end Runway there and when I got into the command post the um senior master sergeant in charge said that there had been UFOs in the pattern all night they're on

1:08:25 radar the tower had seen them they gotten aircraft reports and so on and that one had landed or crashed at um Fort Dicks Fort Dicks and Maguire are right together this is kind of like the Roswell of the East but in any case uh an alien had come off the craft and had been shot by a military policeman and apparently was wounded was heading for Maguire so for whatever reason the uh aliens liked the Air Force better than the Army perhaps because they're shooting at them but any case uh our security police went out there and um found him on the end of the runway Deb and uh they asked me to brief the general staff of General Tom Sadler and um at the 8:00 standup briefing and I said I don't think I want to do this you know the general doesn't have a good sense of humor and

1:09:25 I'm not sure I I believe this so I did some checking called the 438th command post and everybody had pretty much the same story and uh at 8:00 that morning just before I went on was going to brief this I was very worried about it they said don't brief it that it's too hot so speak that's pretty much my story and I'm prepared to tell the story in front of Congress and uh it is a truth now because of this I've stayed interested in UFOs and I'm the Eastern director of the mutual UFO Network and between the national Reporting Center and Peter Davenport and the muon we get 100 reports a week on average of people from all over the United States that see these things regularly and if you start checking they're out there and they're low and people are seeing them all the time and these are highly qualified

1:10:25 people all of whom essentially give us the reports by email thank you morning ladies and gentlemen my name is Clifford Stone I was a Sergeant First Class United States Army I had a secret clearance with assurity I could get the clearance that I needed to do whatever it was at the that was necessary for me to do at the time on Special Operations when I was called in on those what I'm referring to here is that I was involved in situations where we actually did recoveries of trash of crashed saucers for lack of a better term and debris thereof there were bodies that were involved with some of these crashes also some were alive while we were doing all this we were telling the American public there was nothing to it we were telling the world there was nothing to it I'd like to go into detail on some of the cases about the nuts and both BS cases right here but I will be available if

1:11:27 you have any questions concerning my involvement in this you can talk to Dr Greer to arrange for me to get to talk to you but the whole situation is we've set back we've told the American people that there's no such thing as UFOs I've been involved where we have recovered these objects we know them to be of extraterrestrials in 1969 I had an event that happened to me while I was stationed at fortly Virginia we went to Indiantown Gap Pennsylvania that would be my first exposure to any time that we would be recovering an unidentified flying object when we went there we already had people that was already in in the facility we were a backup team which was supposed to be NBC because there were supposed to be some nuclear materials that was on board this craft later on most people involved would have been were were to be told that there was nothing on board it it was nothing more than just crash of one of our aircraft I know better because I was one of the people that approached it

1:12:27 with a Geer counter to get surface readings I was the first person to go ahead and see that there were bodies on it that would be the first of approximately 12 events UFO crashes are not events that take place every day rare I know we're not alone in the universe I know that the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence it's evidence that is has been denied to the people I stand before you today and my almighty God and I tell you this if Congress calls me in and says will you testify in detail what you know I stand here today prepared and ready to do just that governments must never lie to the people for no reason thank good morning my name is Mark mandish and

1:13:30 for the last 21 years I have worked as a conceptual artist for a variety of contractors I've been involved uh in conceptual artwork of the production thereof for Rockwell on the x30 program and also on the uh the high step program that's spelled Hy STP means Hypersonic test bed program uh during the course of my career I've twice had a secret C security clearance in 1967 while my father was stationed in West over Air Force Base the headquarters R Air Force Strategic Air Command I witnessed and watched through a telescope a UFO which hovered over a nuclear weapon storage facility for approximately 10 minutes and then departed uh with an acceleration approaching a bullet leaving a rifle um oh I'm sorry uh in uh in 1988 in November a college buddy of mine an associate by the name of Brad

1:14:30 Sorenson informed me that he had personally witnessed three flying saucers at a very large hanger at Norton Air Force Base during the course of an air show that was held on Saturday November 12th 1988 uh I subsequently uh called my congressman from that District um I called his office this was Congressman Georgie Brown Jr who at the the time was the chairman of the Congressional committee on space science and advanced technology I naturally assumed that since this presentation that Brad talked about was for top military brass and certain Congressional uh individuals that uh his office must have coordinated this uh with the local Air Force office of public affairs uh a male staff member in Congressman Brown's office not only confirmed the exhibit but the fact that there were three discs at that exhibit these discs were hovering off the floor without any visible means of support they were referred to as alien

1:15:31 reproduction Vehicles also nicknamed the flux liner because they used high electricity um let's see to keep things short this this is a diagram that I made based on a uh a sketch that Brad senson did for me in rough form uh s uh shortly after he uh had his sighting and uh subsequently cleaned that drawing up and made it much more accurate and that's the uh the drawing that Dr Greer is holding there now uh later on I obtained uh photographs that were uh taken in 1967 by a military pilot Harvey Williams flying a c47 for the Air Force at 12,000 ft approximately 25 M Southwest of Provo Utah uh this particular vehicle matches the so-called arv uh in all proportions

1:16:31 and respects in terms of the detail of the shape of the craft and this was photographed as I say in Jun June or July of uh um June of 1967 I uh um uh later um spoke to a gentleman by the name of Kent selin that I met at an air show at Edwards Air Force Base in 1992 the first unveiling publicly of the B2 bomber uh he indicated to me that in 1973 when he was a crew chief uh working on um experimental aircraft at Edwards Air Force Base that he had um unintentionally wandered into an area where there was a classified aircraft namely the arv uh he described it in detail and he added uh other details to the account concerning the configuration and the oper vehicle that Brad Sorenson was not aware of uh subsequently Brad senson met with the famous aeronautical designer Bert Rattan gave him a copy of this

1:17:33 blueprint which you've just been shown Mr Rattan felt that it was a joke and put it on his wall as kind of a joke and um a third party confirmed for me later um that a colonel Ray Walsh from Edwards Air Force Base was visiting Mr Rattan saw this uh this blueprint on the the wall and registered quite a degree of shock and anger wanted to know where the hell he got this blueprint because there was in fact such a craft at that time approximately 194 94 95 uh in a hanger at Edwards Air Force Base North base complex at that time um subsequently I've uh done a lot of research on this product this this this vehicle I've come across a number of Declassified documents that show that the Air Force as early as 19 60 was wind tunnel testing Flying Saucer shapes up to mach 20 and uh I also have Declassified NASA documents that show similar shapes uh in

1:18:35 fact this is this is the document here uh more or less um details the uh the wind tunnel testing up to mach 20 this is the NASA doc document right here that was Declassified and it shows a variety of spherical and Len or shapes that were flight tested up to or I should say uh wind tunnel tested up to MOX 6 um I subsequently uh obtain a copy of an inner office Memo from Hercules Aerospace that describes a particular type of science involving something called Zero Point Energy and uh um waves um according to Brad Sorenson this is the basis of the technology for these anti-gravity propulsion systems this particular document here describes six different meetings involving uh the defense intelligence agency and Cooperative efforts with the the Russian scientific community in investigating

1:19:35 this uh what is called the fundamental enabling technology that was originally discovered apparently by Nicolet Tesla in the early 1900s anyway u i could provide you much more detail and um at a later time and I am prepared to uh testify in detail concerning these events and their truth uth fness before Congress thank you very much good morning uh my name is Daniel shien uh I'm an attorney and serving as general counsel uh to the disclosure project I'm a 1967 graduate of Harvard College and American government studies and constitutional law and a graduate of Harvard Law School and I served as general counsel and one of the co-consul for the New York Times in the Pentagon papers case and was involved in uh briefing and arguing the case in front of the United States

1:20:36 Supreme Court uh giving permission to the New York Times to publish the classified documents the 47 volumes of the Pentagon papers subsequent that time I served as special counsel to the office of f Lee Bailey as one of the trial counsels when we represented James McCord in the Watergate burglary uh and got Mr McCord to write the letter to judge Sia to reveal the uh water the Watergate burglar's relationship to the plumers unit uh in the in the White House at that time subsequent to my service in that case I went back to Harvard to the Divinity School to study judeo-christian social ethics and public policy did my Master's work and PhD work there and became general counsel for the United States Jesuit headquarters in Washington DC assigned to the National social Ministries office and their public policy office it was there in

1:21:37 1967 that or 1977 that I was contacted by Miss Marsha Smith who was the director of the Science and Technology division of the Congressional research service she uh asked to meet with me and I met with her and she informed me that President Carter uh upon taking office in January of 1977 held a meeting with then the director of Central Intelligence who was George Bush Senior and demanded that the director of Central Intelligence turn over to the president the classified information about unidentified flying objects and the information that was in the possession of the United States intelligence Community concerning the existence of extraterrestrial intelligence this information was refused to the president of the United States by the director of Central Intelligence George Bush Senior the director insisted that the president uh in order to have access to this information needed to have

1:22:39 clearance to contact the Congressional research service to contact the United States House of Representatives Science and Technology division to have them undertake a process to declassify this because the DCI suspected that the president was preparing to reveal this information to the American public the Congressional research service Science and Technology division under the directorship of marshia Smith was contacted by the house Science and Technology committee and instructed to undertake a major investigation of the existence of extraterrestrial intelligence and the relationship of the UFO phenomenon to this I was contacted by Miss and ask in my capacity as general counsel to the United States Jesuit headquarters uh National Social Ministry Office to see if we could obtain access to the Vatican library to obtain the information that the Vatican had with regard to extraterrestrial intelligence and the phenomenon of the

1:23:41 UFOs uh I pursued that with the permission of Father William J Davis the director of the national office and we were refused access as the United States J order to the information in the possession of the Vatican Library when I reported this to Smith uh she then later subsequently asked me to uh participate in a project which I can go into some detail during the question and answer period or later individuals uh pursuant to which uh I was uh given access to as a special consultant to the United States Library of Congress Congressional research service to the classified portion of the Blue Book Project of the Air Force at that point it was in 1977 imately May of 1977 I went to the Madison building of the United States Library of Congress there was no one in the building at that time it was brand new I was directed to a basement uh office uh where there were

1:24:43 two uh guards uh at the door and a third uh sitting at the table who took my identification uh verified that I've been designated as a special consultant to the Congressional research service of the United States Library of Congress and was admitted to the room I thereupon found photographs some dozen photographs of what is unquestionably a an unidentified flying object on the ground that had crashed and plowed a Furrow in a field of snow and it was embedded in a bank an embankment uh there were United States Air Force personnel surrounding ing this craft taking photographs of The Craft and uh one of the photographs I could see that there were some symbols on the side of the craft so I I proceeded through the photographs and found a closeup photograph of these symbols uh I'd been instructed that I was to take no notes uh and had to leave my briefcase and all my identification

1:25:44 outside of this room but I had brought with me a yellow pad and so what I did is I opened up the yellow pad pad and refocused the overhead camera onto the same size as the the cardboard backing of the yellow pad and I physically traced the copies of the symbols on the side of this craft Clos the the yellow pad back put the the microfish back into the canister reclosed the box that I had and I said it is time for me to leave and I took this and proceeded to leave the office at which point the security guard stopped me and one of them said what is that you have there Mr Sheen which point I handed the yellow pad to him and he flipped through all the Yellow Pages and never found the copy that I had and so I took that with me and brought it to the United States Jesuit headquarters had a meeting with the staff with Father William J Davis reported this to them was authorized at that time by the United States Jesuit

1:26:45 headquarters to make a report to the National Council of churches and to request that the United uh the the uh the entire 54 major religious denominations of our country undertake a major study of extraterrestrial intelligence which they declined to do uh I was subsequently asked to deliver a three-hour closed door seminar to the uh top 50 scientists of the jet propulsion laboratory of SEI the search for extraterrestrial intelligence which I did do in 1977 I'm uh more than happy to testify under oath to these details to the United States Congress and would be happy to meet with any members of the press at that time you may recall I also served as Chief counsel to the Karen silkwood case in which we uh obtained the rulings in the Karen silwood case I also served as Chief counsel in the Iran Contra case was the first one to testify before the United States Congress to the existence of the off-the-shelf Enterprise of Richard Secord and Albert

1:27:46 hem I'll be more than happy to share the details of what I believe to be the relationship between this office shelf Enterprise and the secret government which is concealing this information from the American public and I am happy and proud to serve as general counsel to the disclosure project thank you very much good morning my name is Carol Rosen 1974 after being a sixth grade school teacher I was introduced to the late Dr verer Von Brown in the US the father of rocketry in my first meeting with him during that first 3 and a half hours he said to me Carol you will stop the weaponization of space and I said uh you know teachers don't stop until June he said no you have to understand this is February and we have to prevent the weaponization of

1:28:46 space because there is a lie being told to everyone that the weaponization of space is now first being based upon the evil empire the Russians there are many enemies he said against whom we're going to build the space-based weapon system the first of whom was the Russians which was existing at that time then there would be terrorists then there would be third world countries now we call them Rogue Nations or nations of concern then there would be asteroids and then he would repeat to me over and over and the last card the last card the last card would be the EXT exat terrestrial threat well at the time I kind of laughed when he said asteroids and when he said extraterrestrials I knew I wasn't going to deal with that subject and now we hear on the news just today this week that they've slid in another enemy only this time we're going to protect our satellites in other words we have to have some reason to spend these trillions to waste these dollars on a space-based weapon system and they're all

1:29:46 lies this is a system he told me that would never protect anyone even back then he talked about suitcase bombs he talked about chemical viral bacterial B biological warfare that these space-based weapons would never protect us against and then he told me that in fact if you travel around the world which I did after he died in 1977 I met with people in over a hundred countries who were friends they didn't want to build space-based weapons I became a space and missile defense consultant and I worked with people around the world I became a an adviser to the People's Republic of China they don't want to build a space-based weapon system and he told me back then that they didn't he said go to Russia they're considered to be the enemy I got on a Plane by myself when I got to Russia I had a list of people that I had read out of the newspaper chernenko was in office then he was the only one I didn't get a chance to meet they introduced me to everyone when I got there and when I got back I said oh my Lord this man is telling the

1:30:48 truth there are is no threat and I been waiting until this day for 27 years and I'm expecting the spin to happen because he also explained to me that in the as a military strategist as a person who worked on the MX missile which I did later he said you will find that there is going to be a spin to find some enemy against whom we have to build space-based weapons and now we should expect the spin because he said part of the formula for the intelligence Community is if they might have a weapon then we have to consider that they do have these weapons so now they do have these weapons so now we have to build these weapon systems and that's the formula except that it's all based on a lie and we have witnesses here today that have shown you that these extraterrestrial beings that these craft that have come here are now not UFOs they're identified flying objects and we know that they have beings in them and we have witnesses here who have told you that they can shut down our missile

1:31:49 silos they can stop a rocket going into space that's a test we have witnesses here who have worked in the classified departments who have the courage to come forward here to support what verer Von Brown told me back in 1974 to 77 and I will testify before the Congress that when I founded the institute for security and cooperation in outer space which I shut down a few years ago because I didn't believe we had a chance with this huge integrated around the world complex weapon system that we had any chance at all of transforming that War Industry into a space industry that could provide benefits like Dr Greer has said of global warming we can end that situation of that problem we can end the energy crisis we can build now non-polluting Technologies verer Von Brown used to tell me that we could have cars back then that drove around off the ground he described this to me on beams so that we have no pollution on this planet and we

1:32:52 can solve the problems of the people that are Urgent and potential and the other animals and the other cultures on Earth and in space and we can end the arms race without dislocating the industry jobs without disrupting the economy by transforming verer Von Brown told me the War Industry into a global Cooperative space industry that will provide he said finally more jobs and profits on this planet than during any hot or cold wartime more products and services that can be applied directly to solving the problems of this planet and we can have a whole planet now that lives on PE in peace on Earth with all the cultures on Earth and with all the Extraterrestrial cultures in space and these are words that verer Von Brown told me in 1974 and I will testify before the Congress under oath about everything I have said and more thank

1:33:57 you thank you very much I'd like to thank each of the witnesses and for your patience we're running about uh 50 minutes late and I do apologize for that I want to emphasize that all of these Witnesses each could speak for probably anywhere from 2 to 5 hours about what they have witnessed we were trying to give you a snapshot we have another 400 of these Witnesses I have carried this burden for eight years I'm now giving it to you the American people and the people of the world to take it Forward what I'd like to do now is open uh the audience for questions from the media uh you may address them to me or to an individual witness as as you deem appropriate yes ma'am my name is yes marel Gonzalez was reforma Mexican newspaper I have three questions one is if you here right here yes I wanted to know if there are laws in this country that in some way allowed this kind of secrecy

1:35:00 or not and then I wanted to know if there's a a need to change any kind of law and the next one I wanted to ask you if you may is who is profiting from this secrecy that maintains um in secret the solution to the energy crisis I mean well OB yeah let me get to those okay quickly cuz we are short on time first of all I think initially there was a an appropriate uh National Security apparatus in place in the 40s during the Truman and also Eisenhower years by the late Eisenhower years we have a testimony from Brigadier General Steven lkin still a practicing attorney that by the late Eisenhower years that he had lost control of these projects primarily because of the compartmentalization into the military industrial complex operative word industrial um there are corporations such as saic Lockheed Martin Northrup and others that deal specifically with this issue with Advanced Energy and propulsion systems connected to UFOs and

1:36:02 I think that what has happened from from the best we can tell from insiders that have briefed me for now about 8 years is that we have lost control of these projects from a constitutional law perspective because the infrastructure within military intelligence and corporate channels is so well funded and so complex and Labyrinth that there are compartments within compartments within compartments and people who are in the Congress who make inquiries and in fact President Clinton when he made inquiries or simply denied access as you heard earlier that President Carter was denied access um on your other question um I would say that in terms of profiting from the status quo you big oil uh there are certain geopolitical and financial infrastructures that would not welcome a a definitive replacement to the fossil fuels we can tell I will tell you and we can prove this with other scientists who are ready to come forward that we already have a complete replacement for any fossil fuels or ionizing nuclear power plants we don't need them we

1:37:03 haven't needed them probably have not needed them since the time I was born now of course this is a major issue you're talking a multi-trillion dollar uh Global infrastructure change uh and so this does hit the alarm Bells at the National Security Council economics uh area uh however what is more serious to the National Security keeping the status quo or letting ourselves go into a global ecosystem collapse and running out of fossil fuels and having massive rolling blackouts not just in California but globally we have got to do something about this and soon and that's why we are advocating open hearings in the Congress other media please yes sir I just want to know if anybody at the UN is looking into this uh I personally met with uh Bros bros G's wife Aaliyah G uh who uh said that her husband was quite concerned about this this was in the 1990s uh since then we know that there have been other

1:38:04 people at the UN who've made inquiries the problem is the UN has no mandate to deal with this it needs to be given a mandate from uh its constituent member nations uh and I think that the public and the member nations need to ask that the United Nations get involved with this this is an International Peace issue and an international security issue and it should be taken up by the UN Security Council and of course we are recommending that as well yes sir so I think my my question is actually to my question is to Clifford Stone you said that you had seen aliens on a on a craft that had crashed I wondered if you could describe what they like I could I could but would probably take a whole lot of time the reason I state that when I got out in 1989 we had catalog 57 different species uh you have individuals that look very much like you and myself that could walk among Among Us and you

1:39:05 wouldn't even notice the difference except for some of the things that uh they might be able to go ahead even in a dark room and touch an object and go go ahead and identify what color that object might be they would have a heighten sense of smell site uh hearing uh the uh situation is that you have various types of what we normally call Grays we didn't call them Grays in the military but you had at least three types of the Grays you had some that were much taller than we were uh the unique thing I that I'd like to point out for the most part is that the entities that we did catalog were in fact humanoid now this created a situation where the scientific Community was trying to figure out why that would be the case because you would expect that if life evolved on other planets that they would take on some type of uh being so to speak not necessarily

1:40:06 look humanoid or be by bip pedal such as we are but apparently we got quite a few of the species out there that are humanoid in appearance and that creates a question that yet has to be answered by science uh yes and I'm as I call on you please State the news agency that you were with yes yes ma'am Dean divis with United Press International could you please address uh the vehicle that uh there was a drawing displayed of why would this vehicle be on display at an air show what is the power source that you are asserting is going to be uh so very useful and um how can you determine that this this vehicle is not something um that is being developed you know by a agency uh in fact I think that was the testimony this is an alien reproduction vehicle and just to be clear uh this means that it is based on Advanced anti-gravity and Zero Point Energy

1:41:08 propulsion systems those are the propulsion systems they are being manufactured by a Consortium of companies that include Lockheed Martin Northrup saic and other corporations they do have super luminal capacity in other words faster than the speed of light capacity um I think Mr mandish and other witnesses as he's identified could go into more the technical physics of it I'm just a country doctor from Virginia I tell people I mean really and uh but this is actually what is the reason it's called alien reproduction vehicle is that it's based on the study of extraterrestrial vehicles but it is manufactured by human uh Military Intelligence Aerospace Contracting Arrangements uh and this is very important it means that we Homo sapiens have the ability to access this so-called zero point field of energy which the is the ambient field of energy from which all matter and energy is fluxing and can access that energy and generate all the power we need to run this planet without fossil fuels or

1:42:08 pollution do you have any direct evidence though that this I mean we're talking about the same government that so appropriately named as a snooper program carnivore so just because it's named the alien reproduction vehicle considering the history and the the questions that have been existing for such a long time about flying saucers I mean do you know is there any direct reason to believe that this is actually derived from technology any of the witnesses who can attest to that and and how would this uh a propulsion Sy a rocket engine doesn't necessarily translate into electricity can you elaborate on that uh well the first part of your question I would say that the the the testimony of of witnesses we have some of whom are here others that are not here but they're in the The Briefing materials is that they have studied we have studied specifically extraterrestrial Vehicles which have been retrieved the breakthroughs in that research have led to applications that have led to the building of this and similar anti-gravity uh devices and that

1:43:08 uh in fact this can be proven in open testimony before Congress and that is exactly what we are calling for we have the witnesses to establish this and they also then also have the documents and the specific uh uh details of the propulsion systems but this is not a jet internal combustion system at all it is actually kicked in by a type of electric power source and it then accesses this ambient Zero Point Energy field that is responsible for all matter and energy existing and uh by special configurations and and what have you it causes a a cancellation of mass inertia and an anti-gravity effect and uh this is a complex technical discussion which probably beyond the scope of this conference but we have materials in the briefing uh document that we can provide you with references uh to people who have studied the anti-gravity effect uh as far back is certainly the 1950s we have one witness who said uh that his family was connected to the ran Corporation and that by the mid1 1950s

1:44:08 that more money had been spent on anti-gravity propulsion systems than the totality of the Manhattan Project so uh yes we can establish those elements uh thank you uh my name is Murray feler I publish a newsletter downstairs here called the Washington remote sensing letter that deals with reconnaissance and surveillance of the Earth from space uh my question is this since uh 1972 with the uh launch of lanat one uh and now with the launch of commercial space imagery there are some archived uh I would say upwards of 35 million photographs of the Earth from space uh and not in one of them has shown a you a a flying sorcerer are you suggesting that uh these have been airbrushed out we're suggesting that there is a uh system before the public gets hold of anything that's off of a uh government connected satellite there is a compartmented operation that does indeed sanitize them from this type of

1:45:09 evidence and I think the testimony of of uh uh the gentleman who here who was with the defense intelligence agency Mr Maynard uh Miss ha and others would substantiate that we have other Witnesses who have been involved in projects where such uh items have been sanitized out it could also be that if you did a thorough search you might find a few that slip through we obviously haven't had the research uh dollars to go through all the millions of of images that are cataloged to look for them but we do know there's been a very thorough sanitizing of this and people should not be naive about the extent to which covert programs using billions of our tax dollars have been able to effectively hide this this is one of the sort of myths of both the media and the public public is sort of a polyan myth that we we live in a society where such things could not be done in fact they are done and we can prove that they have been done toit these entire proceedings here and I'm wondering how your screening process but can you tell us a little bit about your satisfaction level for that well I'm very satisfied that

1:46:10 that these are genuine and good people who are speaking truthfully not of 400 people that I'm dealing with not 20 times this number have I been pulled yeah I'm an emergency doctor let me say something people come into the emergency department with flank pain Rising on a stretcher what have they got a kidney stone right yeah well some of them go into the bathroom prick their finger and squeeze blood into the water the the the urine sample to show that they have blood in their urine so they can get a narcotic injection now have I been scammed as an emergency Doctor Who has a you know I'm bright enough enough to to kind of know when I'm being scammed but have I occasionally yeah is it possible it's possible is it likely no and here's what's more important you don't not treat or accept the test the testimony or the history of every patient that comes in with blank pain and assume that they're lying just because you've been scammed once or twice this field you make a very good point is filled with hoaxes and scams and what have you it

1:47:11 doesn't mean however that all of it is and in fact what we're saying after 8 years of research we have found the documents the top secret Witnesses the insiders willing to testify under oath before Congress that this is true now here's another key Point some of the people who are in this witness pool Mr shean myself and a couple of other attorneys are members of State licensed professions and what that means is that if we are perpetrating a hoax we will lose our license to practice medicine we will lose our LIC to practice law because we'll be perpetrating the hopes upon the public so what I would say to you is that the group of people before you are very credible and the others whom we have identified are we are not the CIA we have not been able to do a $50,000 background check on each person I'll give you that caveat but we have done very serious interviews and betting and by the way these people have presented dd214s their defense forms uh other documentation that show uh the two

1:48:12 dd214s and others that show that they were in the military at a certain place in a certain time so we're very comfortable that in fact uh that the way that the testimony will carry the day here and that this is real I had an insight and it relates to your question there have been tens of thousands of sightings and experiences from all over world only one of them needs to be true because if only one of them is true then the entire case the non Falls such evidence out of the public domain yes government a priori all signed agreements and Oaths that have flowed from such operations are null and void what that means is in any other in legal theory is that if if if it's an

1:49:15 Enterprise the agreements those that are intered as a as a as a result of that IL Enterprise have no legal standing so one of the things I would like to announce today is all of the men and women listening to this need to know they are free to speak we are declaring all national security OES on this subject null and voy they have flowed from illegal operations that have no standing constitutionally my people my mother's family who fought in the American Revolution were prisoner of war with the British to help found this country did not fight and die to form the United States so that this kind of chicanery can go on so these men are free to speak and there can be no legal legal repercussions against them we have legal council will'll also support this Theory and we're taking this to other constitutional Scholars it is time for that game to end it is time for a new era in the

1:51:41 and on occasion has also escaped the oversight of the uh President we know for a fact that this has happened I personally briefed President Clinton's first C director on this I was informed that they had no access to these projects although they knew they existed I was told the same thing by the senior investigator for the Senate Appropriations Committee a man named dick damato who in 1994 told me that there were somewhere between 4 and $ 80 billion a year going into these classified projects and that he with a subpoena on behalf of the Senate and a top secret clearance could not penetrate them he told me these were the varsity team of all black projects cover projects so this is really serious stuff and it brings into question have we gone down the road that Eisenhower warned us about a little too far when he said Beware of the military-industrial complex that it can escape the checks and balances of our democracy and I think on this particular issue uh it in fact has and it's time for um the uh Congress to represent the people in this regard and to reassert its oversight of these projects one last question when

1:52:42 you talked about putting the checks and balances back into place talk about the passion of these people if you would how confident are they well they know what they saw I mean these are men ranging from uh Air Force and nro officials to people who have been contract agents for the CIA to people who uh have been pilots in World War II and are heroes of our country the greatest Generation that Tom broot talks about and so what I have to say to you is that uh these people know what they saw they're not going to be speaking about anything except what they directly witnessed and we're not talking lights in the sky and swamp gas we're talking people who have actually retrieved uh extraterrestrial Vehicles who are going to be here today very good we'll take one picture of it that's concrete and that's based on reality but anyone who does further research in this field will find that they are not hostile none of them are hostile they have shown us that they can shut down missile silos and Rockets they have not destroyed us and they've been here for tens of thousands of years we know of 50 years worth more or less of Secrets we know of Maintenance and the fact is Hy

1:53:45 programs being referred to well again we're not dealing with these kinds of things we are dealing with credential unable Witnesses here who have worked in projects we're we're not dealing with that we're dealing with what we know what we know is that these are not hostile activities I don't know how to explain this to you except the people here we all still here the world is still here and they have shown us what their technolog is capable of doing and you can yet imagine and you can hear from Witnesses who worked in fields of re-engineering back engineering what kinds of Technologies can come out of this to literally save people from the suffering that's going on right now I don't doubt the possibility of that yes and that's what this disclosure is about it isn't about these other kinds of stories that you have no proof of and nobodys and the fact is here of what we're saying well they have removed artifact well again you know we're not going to deal with this kind of story and a lot of that is manufactured also that's so what we're dealing with here

1:54:46 is concrete evidence documents people who been work in the industry milary I work thex I went public with