Person
Karl Nell
Also known as Colonel Nell, Col. Nell
- Colonel, U.S. Army (ret.); Army representative to the UAP Task Force
- Former aerospace executive (Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman)
Karl Nell is a retired U.S. Army colonel and aerospace executive who was the Army's representative to the Pentagon's UAP Task Force. His career spanned command at every level of the Army up to brigade, the founding of Army Futures Command, and senior roles at Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman.
After the task force he became one of the most senior former officials to state publicly that non-human intelligence exists. At the SALT iConnections conference in May 2024 he said it has been interacting with humanity for a long time, that unelected officials know it, and that he has "zero doubt". In public talks he lays out a case built on first principles, the testimony of officials from presidents to David Grusch, and data from the Navy videos to nuclear-site incidents. He also gives six reasons why governments have kept quiet, from national security and fear of societal disruption to covering up misdeeds. He traces the stigma to the 1953 Robertson Panel and the Condon study.
He counts David Grusch's testimony, which he presents alongside that of two Navy aviators, and the Schumer–Rounds UAP Disclosure Act among his evidence. He appears in The Age of Disclosure (2025). His statements are his own conclusions. Speaking in public, he limits himself to unclassified material and has not described any first-hand evidence.
Sources: SALT iConnections NY (May 2024) · American Alchemy talk with Diana Pasulka (2024)
Facts and claims
- claimed At the SALT iConnections conference in May 2024 he said that “non-human intelligence exists, non-human intelligence has been interacting with Humanity, this interaction is not new and it's been ongoing and there are unelected people in the government that are aware of that”. Asked how confident he was: “there's zero doubt.” — Karl Nell Source: "Zero Doubt" Non-Human Intelligence on Earth - Col. Karl Nell & Alex Klokus | SALT iConnections NY at 3:37
- claimed Introducing him in 2024, Jesse Michels described his career as including aerospace work at Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman, command at every level of the Army up to brigade, helping set up Army Futures Command, and serving as the Army representative to the UAP Task Force. Source: The Biblical Truth of UFOs & Angels (Ft. Karl Nell & Diana Pasulka) at 2:00
- claimed He sets out three lines of evidence for non-human intelligence: first principles, such as how early life arose and Alcubierre's warp-drive solution; testimony from people in a position to know, from Presidents Obama and Trump to Haim Eshed, Paul Hellyer, Chris Mellon, David Grusch and Lue Elizondo, plus the Schumer–Rounds legislation; and data. — Karl Nell Source: The Biblical Truth of UFOs & Angels (Ft. Karl Nell & Diana Pasulka) at 3:15
- claimed His data include the FLIR, Gimbal and GoFast videos, Gordon Cooper's account, 1970s early-warning radar incursions and the Malmstrom ICBM shutdowns, the 1952 Washington radar-visual sightings, the school landings at Ruwa (1994) and Westall (1966), and UAP activity at nuclear sites such as Pantex and Hanford. — Karl Nell Source: The Biblical Truth of UFOs & Angels (Ft. Karl Nell & Diana Pasulka) at 8:00
- claimed He gives six reasons for government non-disclosure: national security, the lack of a plan, potential societal disruption, a possible covert agreement benefiting those with the status quo, the desire to cover up misdeeds, and bureaucratic inertia. — Karl Nell Source: The Biblical Truth of UFOs & Angels (Ft. Karl Nell & Diana Pasulka) at 19:51
- claimed He cites the 1953 CIA Robertson Panel's recommendation to debunk the subject and monitor civilian UFO groups, and says Edward Condon wrote the Colorado study's conclusion before it was complete, leading to Blue Book's closure. — Karl Nell Source: The Biblical Truth of UFOs & Angels (Ft. Karl Nell & Diana Pasulka) at 20:53
Connected files
Claims
Documentaries
- The Age of Disclosure (appears in)
Incidents
- Malmstrom AFB missile shutdown (cites) — He counts the Malmstrom ICBM shutdowns among his data
Programs
- Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force (represented on) — He was the Army's representative to the UAP Task Force
People
- David Grusch (cites) — He counts Grusch's testimony among his evidence
- Diana Walsh Pasulka (talked with)
Documents
- Schumer–Rounds UAP Disclosure Act (UAPDA) (cites) — He counts the Schumer–Rounds UAP Disclosure Act among his evidence
Videos
- Gillibrand and Col. Karl Nell: secrecy as a threat to democracy (The Age of Disclosure, clip) (appears in)
- The Biblical Truth of UFOs & Angels (Ft. Karl Nell & Diana Pasulka) (appears in)
- "Zero Doubt" Non-Human Intelligence on Earth - Col. Karl Nell & Alex Klokus | SALT iConnections NY (appears in)